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Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#1  Postby Lockon-Stratos » Aug 07, 2012 5:39 pm

I'm applying for a job on my campus this fall and on my work study form it asks me to list special skills and I was wondering if those 2 qualify.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#2  Postby Mazille » Aug 07, 2012 5:44 pm

No, absolutely not. From a student of your age I'd expect nothing less. Sorry.
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#3  Postby The_Metatron » Aug 07, 2012 5:49 pm

Agreed.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#4  Postby Lockon-Stratos » Aug 07, 2012 6:08 pm

Mazille wrote:No, absolutely not. From a student of your age I'd expect nothing less. Sorry.


Ok, just making sure, thanks.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#5  Postby byofrcs » Aug 07, 2012 7:30 pm

I'd expect anyone 12 and over to have reasonably good skills in Word and Powerpoint !. I would expect Openoffice/LibreOffice skills as well.

VBA macro coding and template creation within Word would be a special skill if you have working examples that say companies have used.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#6  Postby kiore » Aug 07, 2012 7:44 pm

I am in a position where I review many CVs, because they have to use a standard format there is a section for 'IT skills' many people reluctant to leave this blank fill in things like this.. I would find this impressive if you included a particularly brilliant PP presentation you had made, but this would be based on the content rather than the ability to create one. Really this is stuff people can learn in a very short period. If you are faced with a form to fill with a section on computer skills and it is not actually an IT course or job, a general comment like familiar with workplace applications, or similar non answer will probably do the trick.
Edit, this is assuming a selection criteria that you must be familiar with Word and PP hasn't been included, if it is you must say you are and if you aren't still say you are, then learn them quickly. :whistle:
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#7  Postby chairman bill » Aug 07, 2012 7:58 pm

If someone told me they were a whizz with Powerpoint, I wouldn't give them a job where they had to use Powerpoint.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#8  Postby LucidFlight » Aug 07, 2012 9:25 pm

Moderate proficiency in the Microsoft Office suite of programs - Excel, Word, PowerPoint, and maybe even Outlook and Access - is, in my opinion, part of a basic set of IT skills. To an extent, I assume people have these skills already, when applying for an office-based job. It's not something I necessarily look for, but if it's on the CV, my reaction is simply: "Ah, all right, then. Thanks for mentioning it." Word and PowerPoint are pretty easy programs one can learn the essentials of quite quickly. If they're not explicitly stated in your skill set, it not something to be concerned about. A recruiter like me might even think they weren't even worth mentioning. So, in my opinion, they're not special skills.
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#9  Postby Zadocfish2 » Aug 07, 2012 9:31 pm

What about a Specialist's Certificate in each? Does that count for anything?
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#10  Postby chairman bill » Aug 07, 2012 9:40 pm

LucidFlight wrote:Moderate proficiency in the Microsoft Office suite of programs - Excel, Word, PowerPoint, and maybe even Outlook and Access - is, in my opinion, part of a basic set of IT skills ...


Never heard of Access, and haven't used Outlook since the mid 1990s.

Proficiency in any single suite is unnecessary. What is needed is a proficiency in word processing, in presentations and so on.

As for fucking Excel - what a heap of shit that is. I detest spreadsheets (it's a dyslexia thing), and hate Excel more than any other such program I've tried.
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#11  Postby LucidFlight » Aug 07, 2012 9:58 pm

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LucidFlight wrote:Moderate proficiency in the Microsoft Office suite of programs - Excel, Word, PowerPoint, and maybe even Outlook and Access - is, in my opinion, part of a basic set of IT skills ...


Never heard of Access,

Microsoft's crappy database thing.

chairman bill wrote:and haven't used Outlook since the mid 1990s.

Lucky you. I have. :waah:

chairman bill wrote:Proficiency in any single suite is unnecessary. What is needed is a proficiency in word processing, in presentations and so on.

Oh, I didn't necessarily mean proficiency in MS Office is a necessity. Although, most people I've come across seem to have MS Office experience. Terrible, I know. I guess what I meant was that if you had proficiency in it, I would simply consider it as a basic skill. If you said you're skilled in Open Orif... uh Office, that would be equally as acceptable. :smile:

chairman bill wrote:As for fucking Excel - what a heap of shit that is. I detest spreadsheets (it's a dyslexia thing), and hate Excel more than any other such program I've tried.

Well, I love it! (Not really.)

falconjudge wrote:What about a Specialist's Certificate in each? Does that count for anything?

If I were looking to hire a specialist in those two packages, then yes. :)
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#12  Postby z8000783 » Aug 08, 2012 6:34 am

Lockon-Stratos wrote:I'm applying for a job on my campus this fall and on my work study form it asks me to list special skills and I was wondering if those 2 qualify.

It depends what you can do with them. Most people are only able to use about 5% of the features of these tools. Do you know how to program macros or build killer presentations?

If not then if just a skill and not special.

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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#13  Postby chairman bill » Aug 08, 2012 8:48 am

z8000783 wrote:... killer presentations ...


Having had to suffer 'death by Powerpoint' on more than one occasion, I have to say that I'm wary of anyone who is into 'killer presentations'.

Powerpoint rules - don't use any of the silly transitions, fancy backgrounds, fancy fonts, graphics & associated bollocks. Remember the acronym KISS
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Re: Do Microsoft word and powerpoint count as special skills?

#14  Postby z8000783 » Aug 08, 2012 8:52 am

I agree and I have had to spend many hours helping presenters bring their presentation back to something resembling sane after they found what was under some of the menu items.

I meant by 'killer' a great presentation as measured by the clarity of was was being presented without noticing that it was PP acting as the engine. It can be done but sadly is a rarity nowadays.

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