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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#21  Postby mmmcheezy » Sep 05, 2010 9:40 pm

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I read a few reviews before heading for the theater. It seemed to be universally panned but every one of them said it was too dark. Exactly what I was hoping to see. One other bonus was that my best friend and I had the entire theater to ourselves. Loved it.

I really liked it too! I thought it was better than Terminator 3, at least.
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#22  Postby mraltair » Sep 05, 2010 9:48 pm

Glad I'm not alone on Boondock Saints :grin: I was cautious when Billy Connolly turned up. Then face-palmed when he spoke :nono:
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#23  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 05, 2010 10:44 pm

I liked Terminator Salvation as well. It's not as good as the 1st 2 (especially the 2nd one), but definitely blows the 3rd out of the water.
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#24  Postby Matt H » Sep 06, 2010 1:14 am

Also, in reverse (films critics love that I hate):

The Deer Hunter
Once Upon A Time In America

It wasn't that I just didn't like those films, I actually found them detestable.
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#25  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 06, 2010 1:25 am

How can one hate The Deer Hunter? :scratch:
... Unless you're an impatient film-goer.
It hits on a lot of issues such as the consequences of war and how they effect relationships. The acting, directing, and acting is superb.
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#26  Postby I'm With Stupid » Sep 06, 2010 1:27 am

Agreed on Temple of Doom. I also think Predator 2 was alright. And American Pie, which I think was actually well reviewed when it came out, but then suddenly became uncool to praise as a critic. I also like Armageddon and Independence Day in the apocalypse genre. I didn't really like Donnie Darko.
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#27  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 06, 2010 1:54 am

I can see why people hate Predator 2, but I liked it. In a sequel, you're most likely never going to make something as good as the original, so you might as well up the ante and have fun with the franchise, which is what it did. It included more Predators, gave them more screen time, and put them in a new environment.
Movies like Armageddon and ID4 are good for what they're supposed to be. They're action/popcorn movies. I have no idea what critics are expecting when they go into these movies, but the trailers should give them a clue that they're not seeing anything more than a fun Hollywood movie.
American Pie was pretty good/funny. It was outrageous but realistic. the characters remind you of people you know or of yourself... at least at that age.
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#28  Postby CookieJon » Sep 06, 2010 2:11 am

Was Battlefield Earth really that bad? Sure it's no Citizen Kane, but one of the worst films ever? I don't think so.
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#29  Postby Jbags » Sep 06, 2010 2:25 am

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Yeah ok it had some fairly awful scenes. But man I love this film! The David vs Goliath fight scene where you think the short guy gets his arse handed to him, but you know he's holding something back and them BAM! cuts the guy's head off...awesome. The most ridiculous scene, without a doubt, was the fireside language montage where the main guy apparently learns their entire language over the course of an evening, allowing the rest of the film to be purely shot in English. Yeah ok, the language thing had to be dealt with but that was just so awful. But this is a film I'm always up for rewatching.

I loved Medicine Man as well, I think I'm just a sucker for anything made by John McTiernan (before the 00's, come on really, Rollerball? Original wiped the floor with that remake. Basic? God now that really was shite...)

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Loved it! (Yes it had its awful bits but bugger me if it wasn't just brilliantly enjoyable!)
And although I liked SG-1, I thought the film was much better :shifty:

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We've had one Aliens film mentioned in this thread already, but I confess I'm a big Alien Resurrection fan :grin:
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#30  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 06, 2010 2:26 am

In regards to Battlefield Earth:
I think it was. :lol:
That movie had no redeeming qualities.
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#31  Postby I'm With Stupid » Sep 06, 2010 2:27 am

I didn't mind the X-Files movie. I was only young though, so it might've been shit.
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#32  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 06, 2010 2:30 am

Stargate was good... but I find the whole pyramid building "mystery" that the film exploits kind of funny.
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#33  Postby Jbags » Sep 06, 2010 3:01 am

Mac_Guffin wrote:Stargate was good... but I find the whole pyramid building "mystery" that the film exploits kind of funny.


Absolutely, that's one of the things I most enjoyed. "Aliens built the pyramids" is such a hilariously bad conspiracy theory, that getting it space-camped-up in Stargate was the best possible treatment for it. (Yeah sure mate, aliens built the pyramids, and they hide giant spacegates right? So Kurt Russell can teleport nukes onto the alien mothership right?)

It does highlight an interesting film mechanic as well, if you want to travel through time or space for a film's setting, it doesn't matter which you use to achieve that aim (go lightyears through space, and "find" a civilization in whatever time setting you like OR travel through time and find a civilization alien enough for your liking).
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#34  Postby Spinozasgalt » Sep 06, 2010 3:08 am

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I enjoyed Sofia Coppola's performance in this film and thought she was quite beautifully innocent and inexperienced, which seemed good for the role. The whole dynamic between Michael and Kay was given more room in this one too, which was one of my favourite elements of the other two films. And they play Mascagni! :grin:
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#35  Postby Mac_Guffin » Sep 06, 2010 3:18 am

That reminds me. The 1st (and last) time I watched The Godfather, I couldn't get into it. I love The Goodfellas and other mob movies, but I thought that one just moved too slow and didn't really have anything interesting about it... but maybe I just need to see it again to appreciate it. When I 1st watched Dr. Strangelove, I didn't like it, but I watched it recently and loved it.
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#36  Postby Jbags » Sep 06, 2010 3:31 am

They're certainly films you have to immerse yourself in. They're more epic in nature than Goodfellas and the like as well; Scorsese is all about gritty realism, and capturing those incredibly intense moments and emptions and he does it brilliantly, whereas Coppola's films are much more focused on maintaining an epic arcing narrative, the performances of the central cast being the jewels in the tapestry.

I love I & II (I'm afraid Spinozasgalt I don't share your opinion about Sofia Coppola, I thought she was terrible in part III, but I'm thankful she turned out to be a better director than an actress :D), but I don't expect everyone to love them. Taste is a subjective thing, and I'm often surprised when people are shocked when they find someone who didn't like the Godfather series. They just aren't to everyone's tastes. They are to mine, and as such, I shall enjoy them :D
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#37  Postby mraltair » Sep 06, 2010 6:32 am

I LOVED Part III (and I and II) I'm with Jbags on Sofia Coppolla she came across as too childlike. But I really like how they played Michael and Kay, with their kids.

I almost never say I like Part III because people look at me like I'm mentally unstable.
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#38  Postby NineOneFour » Sep 06, 2010 6:36 am

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Yeah ok it had some fairly awful scenes. But man I love this film! The David vs Goliath fight scene where you think the short guy gets his arse handed to him, but you know he's holding something back and them BAM! cuts the guy's head off...awesome. The most ridiculous scene, without a doubt, was the fireside language montage where the main guy apparently learns their entire language over the course of an evening, allowing the rest of the film to be purely shot in English. Yeah ok, the language thing had to be dealt with but that was just so awful. But this is a film I'm always up for rewatching.



Totally agree, love this film.

Your other opinions differ from mine, and therefore obviously are wrong. :grin:
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#39  Postby Jbags » Sep 06, 2010 7:45 am

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Yeah ok it had some fairly awful scenes. But man I love this film! The David vs Goliath fight scene where you think the short guy gets his arse handed to him, but you know he's holding something back and them BAM! cuts the guy's head off...awesome. The most ridiculous scene, without a doubt, was the fireside language montage where the main guy apparently learns their entire language over the course of an evening, allowing the rest of the film to be purely shot in English. Yeah ok, the language thing had to be dealt with but that was just so awful. But this is a film I'm always up for rewatching.



Totally agree, love this film.

Your other opinions differ from mine, and therefore obviously are wrong. :grin:


Isn't that always the way :mrgreen:

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Oh absolutely I think part III is a great film :grin: I really enjoy it. The problem with it though, is the fact you cannot consider it without considering parts I and II. It's a great film in its own right, but will always be overshadowed by the first two parts. It may not be as good as them, but actually gets underestimated a lot just because of the gems it is so often compared to. While parts I and II are perhaps overrated ocassionally, III I would say is perpetually underrated and thusly deserving of a place in this thread!
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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#40  Postby Nautilidae » Sep 06, 2010 12:35 pm

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I thought that this was excellent comedy. The pacing of the film was a bit slow, but I didn't mind that, and I felt that it actually made it seem as if the film had a BIT more substance. Even though the film was a parody, I liked that the set pieces were designed to mimic a Medieval time period, as this added the only realism that this film had as well as made the humor stand out much more. I watched the film with no real expectations, and I was thoroughly satisfied.

It has a 43% on Rotten Tomatoes, but I give it 3 1/2 stars out of 4.
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