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#61  Postby laklak » Apr 28, 2020 12:50 am

Toss up for me - Blazing Saddles, Men in Tights, Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs, History of the World Part I, Silent Movie, High Anxiety, The Producers - all of them are fucking hilarious. But I'd have to say Young Frankenstein is his masterpiece.
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#62  Postby Hermit » Apr 28, 2020 9:25 am

laklak wrote:The critics panned it on release.

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An eminently forgettable cult movie when I watched it about 15 years ago. The only bit I do remember is the time in the bowling alley where hotshot Jesus bignoted himself while vigorously polishing his ball.

Perhaps I was simply in the wrong mood at the time. "The Big Lebowski" should be a good show, what with two top notch actors (Steve Buscemi and Philip Seymour Hoffman) in it and being directed by Joel and Ethan Coen. I like all the other movies any of them had a part in.

Rotten Tomatoes rates the movie at 82% from 101 critics and 94% from 355,949 viewers right now, so I'll class this as a highly rated one that did not impress me. "Hate", or even just "dislike" is too strong.

A second-hand shop down the road from me keeps getting DVDs in and sells them for a dollar each. Next time I see this one among them I'll buy it and give it another viewing.
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#63  Postby Fallible » Apr 28, 2020 11:41 am

Withnail & I has a score of 94% now, but I wonder what the initial reception was. Wiki only notes reception from 12 years after release.

It was probably always critically acclaimed, I just use any excuse to talk about it.
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#64  Postby felltoearth » Apr 28, 2020 2:38 pm

Amongst those who actually saw it, it was well received (I remember the initial release.) It was an instant cult classic essentially because of the book it was based on.


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#65  Postby Fallible » Apr 28, 2020 2:46 pm

Oh yeah, of course. I was only 14 when it came out, so didn’t know of it or the book yet.
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#66  Postby felltoearth » Apr 28, 2020 3:14 pm

Fallible wrote:Oh yeah, of course. I was only 14 when it came out, so didn’t know of it or the book yet.

TBF, it was my brother and his circle who was all over this... and I was 20 by that point.
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#67  Postby Fallible » Apr 28, 2020 3:48 pm

I was enlightened while at uni.
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#68  Postby Animavore » Apr 28, 2020 3:50 pm

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Twice in the last five or so years I was drinking in a (different) friend's house and this came on the TV and we laughed and jeered all the way true. Great fun. Should be brought to stage as an a '...On Ice' production.

You couldn't even say that about Nolan's third movie no one talks about any more.
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#69  Postby Mike_L » Apr 28, 2020 6:33 pm

The great pity of Batman and Robin is that the script and acting do no justice to the production design. There's some fine craftsmanship on display in an otherwise dire movie. The FX supervisor was industry veteran John Dykstra (of Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica (the original) fame).
Batman and Robin was made in that intermediate period (1990s to early 2000s) when FX crews were typically using a combination of miniatures (models) and CGI, as opposed to just CGI. And Batman and Robin contains a good number of impressive hand-crafted miniatures...

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#70  Postby OlivierK » Apr 28, 2020 7:46 pm

Fallible wrote:Withnail & I has a score of 94% now, but I wonder what the initial reception was. Wiki only notes reception from 12 years after release.

It was probably always critically acclaimed, I just use any excuse to talk about it.

I was at uni when it came out, and saw it in the week of release based on excellent reviews. I may have seen it a few (dozen) times since. Lockdown has brought us to the point where it's on top of the list of films for our next family movie night with our older teenagers, who are sick of listening to their parents reference or quote it without having seen it themselves.
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#71  Postby felltoearth » Apr 28, 2020 10:50 pm

This happened to show up in my FB feed just now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ody4zJgwqm4


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#72  Postby Hermit » Apr 29, 2020 2:58 am

I haven't even heard of Withnail & I until someone wrote about it posted an excerpt in another forum a couple of years ago. Rummaging around for a bit, I found it available (in two parts and glorious 538 x 220 resolution) on Dailymotion, and dowloaded it. (Link). It's still on my "to watch one day" list.

(Somewhat offtopic) Sites like Youtube, Vimeo and Dailymotion have increasingly become veritable treasure troves of full length movies and documentaries, including works I could not find for sale on DVD. Thanks to them I have caught up with old stuff like "The Triple Echo" (Glenda Jackson, Oliver Reed), "The Music Lovers" Richard Chamberlain, Glenda Jackson, Ken Russell (dir)), "This Sporting Life" (Richard Harris, Rachel Roberts), "The Civil War" (Ken Burns) and many others.
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#73  Postby Fallible » Apr 29, 2020 10:24 am

OlivierK wrote:
Fallible wrote:Withnail & I has a score of 94% now, but I wonder what the initial reception was. Wiki only notes reception from 12 years after release.

It was probably always critically acclaimed, I just use any excuse to talk about it.

I was at uni when it came out, and saw it in the week of release based on excellent reviews. I may have seen it a few (dozen) times since. Lockdown has brought us to the point where it's on top of the list of films for our next family movie night with our older teenagers, who are sick of listening to their parents reference or quote it without having seen it themselves.


:lol: My daughter is equally exasperated but won’t watch it, because obviously anything the two squares enjoy isn’t going to be worth the time of a hip up and coming 19-year-old. :roll:
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#74  Postby Fallible » Apr 29, 2020 10:27 am

felltoearth wrote:This happened to show up in my FB feed just now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ody4zJgwqm4


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#75  Postby OlivierK » Apr 29, 2020 10:33 am

Fallible wrote:
OlivierK wrote:
Fallible wrote:Withnail & I has a score of 94% now, but I wonder what the initial reception was. Wiki only notes reception from 12 years after release.

It was probably always critically acclaimed, I just use any excuse to talk about it.

I was at uni when it came out, and saw it in the week of release based on excellent reviews. I may have seen it a few (dozen) times since. Lockdown has brought us to the point where it's on top of the list of films for our next family movie night with our older teenagers, who are sick of listening to their parents reference or quote it without having seen it themselves.


:lol: My daughter is equally exasperated but won’t watch it, because obviously anything the two squares enjoy isn’t going to be worth the time of a hip up and coming 19-year-old. :roll:

:lol:

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Re: Films Critics Hate That You Love

#76  Postby felltoearth » Apr 29, 2020 2:30 pm

I wonder if watching the doc would help. That kind of squalor seems almost unimaginable in this day and age (though I know it still does exist) and might give a context to the age that we lived through that otherwise young’uns don’t have.
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#77  Postby Fallible » Apr 29, 2020 2:38 pm

She won’t touch anything we recommend. Occasionally she will work herself around to asking what the name of a song is that has been on a playlist of mine, but that’s about it. A wilful child, as my mother would say.
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