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Modern art versus toddler art...

#1  Postby Mike_L » Oct 08, 2013 9:25 am

We've already had a thread on a similar topic some time ago...
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Now see how well you fare at distinguishing between toddler doodlings and gallery-level modern art... :smile:

QUIZ: Can You Tell The Difference Between Modern Art And Paintings By Toddlers?
Some of these paintings are on refrigerators. Others are in MoMA.*

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*(MoMA = Museum of Modern Art)
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Re: Modern art versus toddler art...

#2  Postby natselrox » Oct 08, 2013 9:34 am

4/11.

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#3  Postby Bribase » Oct 08, 2013 9:35 am

9/11
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#4  Postby Cito di Pense » Oct 08, 2013 9:39 am

Mike_L wrote:
Now see how well you fare at distinguishing between toddler doodlings and gallery-level modern art...


You can do surprisingly well simply by guessing all the pieces were done by toddlers. What does that tell you about whether the designers of the test were playing with you?

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Re: Modern art versus toddler art...

#5  Postby Scar » Oct 08, 2013 9:49 am

From the comments:

Children aren't more wildly creative than adults. They're just dumber. Modern art is about being dumb.


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That being said, I only got 2 wrong :D
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Re: Modern art versus toddler art...

#6  Postby Mike_L » Oct 08, 2013 10:32 am

5/11
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#7  Postby Animavore » Oct 08, 2013 10:37 am

9 out of 11. Should've been ten really. I went against my gut on one of them and changed my mind just before I clicked.
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#8  Postby The_Piper » Oct 08, 2013 12:09 pm

6\11. :lol:
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#9  Postby MrFungus420 » Oct 09, 2013 3:52 am

Slackers!

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#10  Postby GT2211 » Oct 09, 2013 4:13 am

5/11
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#11  Postby Antiphones » Aug 14, 2014 9:14 am

I looked at these and decided there was no point trying to figure out which was which. The fact that you even have to think about it was just too irksome for me. I go to museums and galleries quite a lot and I do get tired of seeing so much, what I consider to be talentless crap on the walls. My personal gage is this: If I could have made it or come up with the idea for it (if its conceptual) then its crap. Why? Because I have no visual artistic talent so if I could have made it, it can't be of any quality.

When I look at a Rembrandt, Rubens, Picasso, Vermeer, Klee, etc... etc... There isn't even a second's doubt, I could never have created any of it, and I've never met anyone who could. This calibre of art says something about the world and about the artist and it does it on a deep and lasting level. In order to achieve that, you need various things. One which is vitally important among them in my view, is an extremely high degree of craft. In other words the ability to control the paint or other media to such a fine degree that you can translate your deepest artistic vision and emotions (however subtle or extreme) with a high degree of accuracy. That takes a lot of craft in any art, visual, music etc...

When I see art on the walls which I know I, with no visual artistic talent could have come up with and produced, I find it an insult. It an insult when the world is full of great talent, there are artists with the talent of Rembrandt and Picasso out there now, but the galleries, as a rule (there is the occasional exception) are not allowing them in.

Modern art is said to be "challenging" and presenting new ways to look at the world, at art, at gallery spaces I don't find it so. Everything that was said about that was said better in the 1940's and 50's. Its been done. Modern art is for many people a running joke, hence the website quiz.

Its a tragedy in my view I would go further and say, in the light of the social freedom we have in the west, its a cultural crime the way galleries behave.

My sincere apologies if this read like a rant. I've never seen this topic discussed before on a forum so I guess I had a lot of ire stored up!
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Re: Modern art versus toddler art...

#12  Postby Mike_L » Aug 15, 2014 9:16 am

Antiphones wrote:I looked at these and decided there was no point trying to figure out which was which. The fact that you even have to think about it was just too irksome for me. I go to museums and galleries quite a lot and I do get tired of seeing so much, what I consider to be talentless crap on the walls. My personal gage is this: If I could have made it or come up with the idea for it (if its conceptual) then its crap. Why? Because I have no visual artistic talent so if I could have made it, it can't be of any quality.

When I look at a Rembrandt, Rubens, Picasso, Vermeer, Klee, etc... etc... There isn't even a second's doubt, I could never have created any of it, and I've never met anyone who could. This calibre of art says something about the world and about the artist and it does it on a deep and lasting level. In order to achieve that, you need various things. One which is vitally important among them in my view, is an extremely high degree of craft. In other words the ability to control the paint or other media to such a fine degree that you can translate your deepest artistic vision and emotions (however subtle or extreme) with a high degree of accuracy. That takes a lot of craft in any art, visual, music etc...

When I see art on the walls which I know I, with no visual artistic talent could have come up with and produced, I find it an insult. It an insult when the world is full of great talent, there are artists with the talent of Rembrandt and Picasso out there now, but the galleries, as a rule (there is the occasional exception) are not allowing them in.

Modern art is said to be "challenging" and presenting new ways to look at the world, at art, at gallery spaces I don't find it so. Everything that was said about that was said better in the 1940's and 50's. Its been done. Modern art is for many people a running joke, hence the website quiz.

Its a tragedy in my view I would go further and say, in the light of the social freedom we have in the west, its a cultural crime the way galleries behave.

My sincere apologies if this read like a rant. I've never seen this topic discussed before on a forum so I guess I had a lot of ire stored up!

Quite right! :thumbup:

This video sums it up nicely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_TIPyRhxU

It starts with appalling "music" linked to appalling "art", then segues into a showcase of what real music and real art are. Also provided (in the form of subtitles) is a history of how crap came to be regarded as "art".
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#13  Postby Varangian » Aug 15, 2014 2:40 pm

8/11 A bit dodgy quiz, though, as the modern art was details of larger works and not the entire paining.

While I can appreciate some modern art, I'm too much of a traditionalist to appreciate the often pseudo-intellectual exercises by people who couldn't paint a flower if their lives depended on it. To quote Banksy: "All artists are prepared to suffer for their work, but why are so few prepared to learn to draw?" It is the same with "art music"; it is intended for a small clique who can feel exclusive and that they "get it", in contrast to the great unwashed masses who like music one can enjoy.
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#14  Postby Animavore » Aug 15, 2014 2:46 pm

I didn't realise this was an old thread when I done the test :lol:

And how the hell did I get a lower score this time? 7/11.
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#15  Postby Fallible » Aug 15, 2014 3:04 pm

10/11 :coffee:
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#16  Postby UncertainSloth » Aug 15, 2014 3:08 pm

7/11.....art is not my specialism in school.....obviously....
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#17  Postby quisquose » Aug 15, 2014 3:18 pm

9/11

But then I have visited MoMA recently ... oh, bollocks to that, I just guessed and after getting the first one wrong (and the last one) I managed to guess what the people who put the quiz together would want to put next. A bit like I could play guess which hand the coin is in with my kids, and make them guess wrong 9 times out of 10.

I visited the very popular Henri Matisse: The Cut-Outs at The Tate last week and I thought that was pretty crap too.
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#18  Postby scott1328 » Aug 15, 2014 3:52 pm

I picked only the ones I liked better, got 5/11. Interestingly enough, I liked 7/11 paintings by the toddlers better.
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#19  Postby Calilasseia » Aug 21, 2014 3:49 am

6/11. Some of the modern artworks I guessed because toddlers tend to like bright colours, so anything with a sombre palette was probably going to be of adult origin. Unfortunately, one or two of the monochrome pieces deceived me.
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#20  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Aug 21, 2014 3:58 am

I'm wondering how many of the 'toddlers' had the colors selected for them.

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I would pay good money for some of the toddler pieces. Quite beautiful and and balanced.


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