Satsuma Vase Meiji Dynasty Super-ornate, Valuation?

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Re: Satsuma Vase Meiji Dynasty Super-ornate, Valuation?

#21  Postby Hermit » Aug 09, 2020 10:49 am

aufbahrung wrote:
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aufbahrung wrote:Shimazu crest along with obvious baroque expertise in the enamel etc marks this one out as genuine , and so of mid to max value range for this style of pottery.

Your vase was made somewhere between 1900 and 1940. It is bottom of the barrel stuff. You'll find out when you put it up for sale.

Your only saying that to get a good price on ebay.

I have neither desire nor intention to buy Satsuma ware of any description.

More about Meiji period ceramics:
Seen in the West as distinctively Japanese, this style actually owed a lot to imported pigments and Western influences, and had been created with export in mind. Workshops in many cities raced to produce this style to satisfy demand from Europe and America, often producing quickly and cheaply. So the term "Satsuma ware" came to be associated not with a place of origin but with lower-quality ware created purely for export.
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Re: Satsuma Vase Meiji Dynasty Super-ornate, Valuation?

#22  Postby Svartalf » Aug 09, 2020 10:58 am

aufbahrung wrote:This might be a more helpful source for satsuma info...

https://www.invaluable.com/blog/satsuma-pottery/

That piece is not well written, obviously by somebody who has little actual command of the history of Japanese ceramics, and is not an actual information piece, but a bit of advertisement. it is to be taken with a rather large spoonful of salt.
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#23  Postby Fallible » Aug 11, 2020 9:39 pm

aufbahrung wrote:I did try this with a ashtray one time somewhere. Same effect. Wanted to start a discussion on antiques, change the moribund atmosphere. I think it is quite a nice vase, in the correct setting, perhaps a 1920s opium den or brothel. You all lack my imagination...I guess?


Nope, just don’t like it. It is not done in a style which I find pleasing to mine eye. The colours are all wrong, and it’s what I would term gaudy. It’s the sort of thing you would have found on my granny’s mantelpiece, my granny who never had two ha’pennies to rub together. Vulgar, like my family. Do you also have a Blue Lady picture? Perhaps two ceramic spaniels flanking the gas fire? I’m the proud owner of one (there were two until one fell down the stairs) cerise vase with two gilt handles and a lovely oval portrait of Joan of Arc on it. The other had King James II. Lovely Catholic tat. They are old, since they’ve been in the family for over a hundred years. They’re still the cheapest of cheap tut. They can’t not be, my family were penniless nobodies. My grandad was an actual spiv in the war, he was considered to have done well for himself. I would be embarrassed to put this vase up for sale. Still, try it. See how far it gets you.
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