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The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#1  Postby murshid » Nov 22, 2011 2:39 pm

Can anyone tell me what Tim Minchin meant by:

Tim Minchin wrote:And if perchance I have offended
Think but this and all is mended:
We’d as well be 10 minutes back in time,
For all the chance you’ll change your mind.
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#2  Postby Animavore » Nov 22, 2011 2:42 pm

He's saying if you're the type of person that believes woo you've probably wasted your time listening to the song because you're just going to get offended and miss the point.
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#3  Postby mattthomas » Nov 22, 2011 2:48 pm

I'm becoming aware that I'm staring, I'm like a rabbit, suddenly trapped in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap

Storm to her credit despite my derision, keeps firing off cliches with startling precision, like a sniper using bollocks for ammunition

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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#4  Postby rJD » Nov 22, 2011 2:52 pm

Just in case anyone missed it, those lines also reference Puck at the end of Midsummer Night's Dream:

"If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber'd here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
if you pardon, we will mend:
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends"

(edit: just remembered that this continues the Shakespeare reference, first made by Storm herself and from then satirised by Minchin)
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#5  Postby Wiðercora » Nov 22, 2011 2:54 pm

Animavore wrote:He's saying if you're the type of person that believes woo you've probably wasted your time listening to the song because you're just going to get offended and miss the point.


Or 'I've already made up my mind - don't confuse me with facts'.
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#6  Postby HughMcB » Nov 22, 2011 3:30 pm

Animavore wrote:He's saying if you're the type of person that believes woo you've probably wasted your time listening to the song because you're just going to get offended and miss the point.

Pretty much ended the thread right there.
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#7  Postby natselrox » Nov 22, 2011 4:49 pm

Animavore wrote:He's saying if you're the type of person that believes woo you've probably wasted your time listening to the song because you're just going to get offended and miss the point.


Thanks, Ani. I didn't understand that as well. :thumbup:
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#8  Postby Animavore » Nov 22, 2011 5:09 pm

I don't think I explained it too well. I was just leaving somewhere when I wrote it. It's broke down like this.

"And if perchance I have offended
Think but this and all is mended:"

If this poem has offended you (or more accurately caused righteous indignation) and your precious bullshit beliefs here's a suggestion (which you're going to do anyway).

"We’d as well be 10 minutes back in time,
For all the chance you’ll change your mind."

Just go back to ten minutes ago before the poem began and pretend like your dumb-ass woo beliefs weren't ridiculed as the dumb-ass woo beliefs they are and go on maintaining your beliefs because nothing is going to change your mind.

I can understand why it could be hard for a non-native English speaker because it's quite sarky and packed with meaning.
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#9  Postby natselrox » Nov 22, 2011 5:14 pm

It is still kinda difficult for me but I think I get the idea.
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#10  Postby Animavore » Nov 22, 2011 5:24 pm

It's mostly a resignation. A sort of, "Why do I bother?" I might as well talk to a wall.
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#11  Postby natselrox » Nov 22, 2011 5:28 pm

Understandable reaction...
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#12  Postby Animavore » Nov 22, 2011 5:32 pm

I've been there in real life, things get heated, especially when drink is involved. It gets to the stage where it's either let it go or let it come to blows.
When you're pretty like me it's best to let it drop on the off chance the guy gets a lucky punch in and damages your looks.

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#13  Postby natselrox » Nov 22, 2011 5:38 pm

We've all been there! I usually go, "Good for you then" and shut up.
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#14  Postby murshid » Nov 23, 2011 4:58 pm

Animavore wrote:I don't think I explained it too well. I was just leaving somewhere when I wrote it. It's broke down like this.

"And if perchance I have offended
Think but this and all is mended:"

If this poem has offended you (or more accurately caused righteous indignation) and your precious bullshit beliefs here's a suggestion (which you're going to do anyway).

"We’d as well be 10 minutes back in time,
For all the chance you’ll change your mind."

Just go back to ten minutes ago before the poem began and pretend like your dumb-ass woo beliefs weren't ridiculed as the dumb-ass woo beliefs they are and go on maintaining your beliefs because nothing is going to change your mind.

I can understand why it could be hard for a non-native English speaker because it's quite sarky and packed with meaning.


Thanks a lot, Animavore. But if the last two lines meant that, then why would it "mend" anything?
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#15  Postby Animavore » Nov 23, 2011 5:00 pm

murshid wrote:
Animavore wrote:I don't think I explained it too well. I was just leaving somewhere when I wrote it. It's broke down like this.

"And if perchance I have offended
Think but this and all is mended:"

If this poem has offended you (or more accurately caused righteous indignation) and your precious bullshit beliefs here's a suggestion (which you're going to do anyway).

"We’d as well be 10 minutes back in time,
For all the chance you’ll change your mind."

Just go back to ten minutes ago before the poem began and pretend like your dumb-ass woo beliefs weren't ridiculed as the dumb-ass woo beliefs they are and go on maintaining your beliefs because nothing is going to change your mind.

I can understand why it could be hard for a non-native English speaker because it's quite sarky and packed with meaning.


Thanks a lot, Animavore. But if the last two lines meant that, then why would it "mend" anything?
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Re: The meaning of the ending of Tim Minchin's 'Storm'

#16  Postby murshid » Nov 23, 2011 5:03 pm

Animavore wrote:
murshid wrote:
Animavore wrote:I don't think I explained it too well. I was just leaving somewhere when I wrote it. It's broke down like this.

"And if perchance I have offended
Think but this and all is mended:"

If this poem has offended you (or more accurately caused righteous indignation) and your precious bullshit beliefs here's a suggestion (which you're going to do anyway).

"We’d as well be 10 minutes back in time,
For all the chance you’ll change your mind."

Just go back to ten minutes ago before the poem began and pretend like your dumb-ass woo beliefs weren't ridiculed as the dumb-ass woo beliefs they are and go on maintaining your beliefs because nothing is going to change your mind.

I can understand why it could be hard for a non-native English speaker because it's quite sarky and packed with meaning.


Thanks a lot, Animavore. But if the last two lines meant that, then why would it "mend" anything?
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Because the woo-ist will carry on with their life as if nothing happened with their head in the clouds, their beliefs untarnished by reason.


I meant that if he meant "just ignore what I've said, because you are too close-minded to change your mind anyway", then how is that consistent with "Think but this and all is mended"?

I guess I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself. :(
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#17  Postby natselrox » Nov 23, 2011 5:06 pm

Ingriji ta bodhoy amader dara ar holo na, murshid bhai. Jatayur moto "made easy" niye ghure berate hobe...
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#18  Postby murshid » Nov 23, 2011 5:07 pm

natselrox wrote:Ingriji ta bodhoy amader dara ar holo na, murshid bhai. Jatayur moto "made easy" niye ghure berate hobe...

যা বলেছেন! :)
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#19  Postby Animavore » Nov 23, 2011 5:11 pm

I'm guessing Nats explained it :dunno:
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#20  Postby murshid » Nov 23, 2011 5:15 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm guessing Nats explained it :dunno:

Not really. We were just lamenting about our deficiency in the English language.

I would still appreciate if you could answer my last question.
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