Spearthrower wrote:But kindly go and stroke yourself in public somewhere else.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:I have no idea at all what your political position is on anything, but that doesn't mean you can't be affected or influence by alt-right manufactured outrage

Look, another claim with no evidence furnished!

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:But kindly go and stroke yourself in public somewhere else.

Why are you so keenly interested in what you think I am doing with my genitalia?

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:I have no idea at all what your political position is on anything, but that doesn't mean you can't be affected or influence by alt-right manufactured outrage

Look, another claim with no evidence furnished!

Jesus you're horny.

What is it I am supposedly obligated to furnish evidence for in the above?

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:But kindly go and stroke yourself in public somewhere else.

Why are you so keenly interested in what you think I am doing with my genitalia?

Because you're thrusting it in my face? I would be very happy not to be interested in your genitalia due to them not being vigorously tugged at me.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:But kindly go and stroke yourself in public somewhere else.

Why are you so keenly interested in what you think I am doing with my genitalia?

Because you're thrusting it in my face? I would be very happy not to be interested in your genitalia due to them not being vigorously tugged at me.

OK. Anything more than cheap insults and unsubstantiated claims?

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Why are you so keenly interested in what you think I am doing with my genitalia?

Because you're thrusting it in my face? I would be very happy not to be interested in your genitalia due to them not being vigorously tugged at me.

OK. Anything more than cheap insults and unsubstantiated claims?

Sufficient, I would say, given the absurd display of entitlement

Azaghal wrote:
Meeting your burden of proof when you make positive claims should be considered expected behavior in general, but especially on a skepticism forum. I have not made one claim in this thread that I didn't provide supporting details for and expecting more than what would easily merit an "F" grade in a school essay hardly betrays absurd entitlement.

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

None of that bears on you making a claim and failing to furnish evidence for it.

And again, insofar as the discussion that was happening - you didn't even exist, so the idea that I am somehow beholden to you and must leap to perform tricks on command for you is fucking insane. There's room here for you, but not for you and your grossly swollen sense of entitlement.

Burden of proof doesn't have an "I wasn't talking to you" exemption clause. All kinds of people who have failed to meet their burden of proof weren't talking to me when they made their claims. For example: I think I've only ever interacted with one fairly minor academic creationist directly. (I wonder whether I should have ever made an effort to meet Behe.) Doesn't matter one jot or tittle.

You're like a dog on heat. Go away chap, I am not interested in your amorous advances.

It's fucking moronic. Citations are an academic requirement, not a conversational one, and you are replying to my post (which I wrote before you even joined the forum) saying that I didn't have a fucking citation. I already expressly said

Spearthrower @ The Rings of Power gets funny

Spearthrower wrote:Just generally 'the books' I'm afraid. I don't have any scholarly indexing to refer to! :)

This is BEFORE you joined, let alone fucking posted demanding I perform tricks for you.

Posted Oct 15, 2022
Azaghal Joined:Nov 05, 2022 12:31 pm


And what's a reasonable response to this? Hmm, let's look at the person with whom I was having this discussion.

Papa Smurf wrote:Fair enough...

So, the person with whom I was having the discussion acknowledged that it's perfectly understandable that I am not going to provide page and line references, but you, a person who wasn't even a member here, but who has joined a forum full of strangers in an increasingly unusual manner, seems to think I am somehow beholden to them to perform tricks.

No chap, read slowly: I have no obligation to you whatsoever.

Even more ridiculous is that the entire point of a citation would be to persuade someone - I am not trying to persuade you, I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.

Your entitlement in this case extends to not believing what I wrote. Nothing more. Now kindly eject your throbbing ego from the forum so that you might enjoy your time here absent its insane demands of entitlement.

Azaghal wrote:If I were strictly talking about the claim about Dwarves enthralled to Sauron being "swarthy", you'd have at least a peg-leg to stand on, but I am now talking about what you've quickly established to be a pervasive pattern of behavior.

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

None of that bears on you making a claim and failing to furnish evidence for it.

And again, insofar as the discussion that was happening - you didn't even exist, so the idea that I am somehow beholden to you and must leap to perform tricks on command for you is fucking insane. There's room here for you, but not for you and your grossly swollen sense of entitlement.

Burden of proof doesn't have an "I wasn't talking to you" exemption clause. All kinds of people who have failed to meet their burden of proof weren't talking to me when they made their claims. For example: I think I've only ever interacted with one fairly minor academic creationist directly. (I wonder whether I should have ever made an effort to meet Behe.) Doesn't matter one jot or tittle.

You're like a dog on heat. Go away chap, I am not interested in your amorous advances.

It's fucking moronic. Citations are an academic requirement, not a conversational one, and you are replying to my post (which I wrote before you even joined the forum) saying that I didn't have a fucking citation. I already expressly said

Spearthrower @ The Rings of Power gets funny

Spearthrower wrote:Just generally 'the books' I'm afraid. I don't have any scholarly indexing to refer to! :)

This is BEFORE you joined, let alone fucking posted demanding I perform tricks for you.

Posted Oct 15, 2022
Azaghal Joined:Nov 05, 2022 12:31 pm


And what's a reasonable response to this? Hmm, let's look at the person with whom I was having this discussion.

Papa Smurf wrote:Fair enough...

So, the person with whom I was having the discussion acknowledged that it's perfectly understandable that I am not going to provide page and line references, but you, a person who wasn't even a member here, but who has joined a forum full of strangers in an increasingly unusual manner, seems to think I am somehow beholden to them to perform tricks.

No chap, read slowly: I have no obligation to you whatsoever.

Even more ridiculous is that the entire point of a citation would be to persuade someone - I am not trying to persuade you, I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not.

Your entitlement in this case extends to not believing what I wrote. Nothing more. Now kindly eject your throbbing ego from the forum so that you might enjoy your time here absent its insane demands of entitlement.

Azaghal wrote:Alt-right people do not like me.

Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Regina wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here.

Azaghal wrote:

Regina wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here.

Blaming RoP bombing on overly picky racist alt-right nerds isn't magically going to recoup Amazon's losses on this boondoggle.

Regina wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Regina wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here.

Blaming RoP bombing on overly picky racist alt-right nerds isn't magically going to recoup Amazon's losses on this boondoggle.

Why do Amazon‘s losses concern you at all? You got shares?

Employees were forced to work in heat that hit 114 degrees at a warehouse in Lehigh Valley, PA. Amazon kept paramedics in the parking lot of the warehouse to treat employees who were fainting, suffering from dehydration, or exhaustion.

Greg the Grouper wrote:I also don't think it fair to describe alt-righters as being overly picky.

Azaghal wrote:You know what? I'll actually just drop the "swarthy" Dwarves inquiry. Not because you came up with any evidence to deserve dropping it but because you apparently think this is your ace in the hole. (Also, if you really wanted to come up with negative racial imagery in "the books", bringing up the broadly Asiatic appearance of many Orcs would have been a much better angle. Just saying.) I'll instead focus on the "alt-right manufactured outrage" claim, since you can't even pretend that a "I wasn't talking to you" exemption applies here.