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Re: The Rings of Power gets funny

#161  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:22 am

Azaghal wrote:
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Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here. :popcorn:


Blaming RoP bombing on overly picky racist alt-right nerds isn't magically going to recoup Amazon's losses on this boondoggle.


Attempting to hold both sides of the conversation just makes you look like you're here to manufacture outrage.

Or, you know, you could try and accurately render what people here write.
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#162  Postby Greg the Grouper » Nov 07, 2022 12:23 am

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Greg the Grouper wrote:I also don't think it fair to describe alt-righters as being overly picky.


In many cases, they really aren't. They often profess to want to uphold the values of the Third Reich but often have yellow fever or an unhealthy interest in Abigail Shapiro's mommy milkers.


Whoa, whoa. What kind of nimrod would assign values to the Third Reich?

Also, just super curous, why Abby Shapiro specifically?
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#163  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:24 am

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Azaghal wrote:You know what? I'll actually just drop the "swarthy" Dwarves inquiry. Not because you came up with any evidence to deserve dropping it but because you apparently think this is your ace in the hole. (Also, if you really wanted to come up with negative racial imagery in "the books", bringing up the broadly Asiatic appearance of many Orcs would have been a much better angle. Just saying.) I'll instead focus on the "alt-right manufactured outrage" claim, since you can't even pretend that a "I wasn't talking to you" exemption applies here.


This is so full obviously laboured bullshit, I think you're blowing your cover.


You can think whatever you like. I'm still really just interested in you naming the alt-right actors who are driving the demise of RoP (and providing supporting detail this time).
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#164  Postby Animavore » Nov 07, 2022 12:25 am

Matt_B wrote:Aye, it's a funny old world when there's more outrage over Lenny Henry playing a hobbit than there is over Joe Rogan spouting completely unsubstantiated and dangerous bullshit.


I thought it was really nice to see him again after I don't know how many years.

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#165  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:26 am

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Azaghal wrote:
Greg the Grouper wrote:I also don't think it fair to describe alt-righters as being overly picky.


In many cases, they really aren't. They often profess to want to uphold the values of the Third Reich but often have yellow fever or an unhealthy interest in Abigail Shapiro's mommy milkers.


Whoa, whoa. What kind of nimrod would assign values to the Third Reich?


No one said they were good values. But they obviously had a system of values like anyone does.

Greg the Grouper wrote:Also, just super curous, why Abby Shapiro specifically?


She's awfully large out in front. In addition, there's no way the pics she uploads with bare feet and talking about just constantly dribbling milk after pregnancy isn't done for some sort of publicity.
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#166  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:29 am

Spearthrower wrote:
Azaghal wrote:
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Spearthrower wrote:Batshit.

Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here. :popcorn:


Blaming RoP bombing on overly picky racist alt-right nerds isn't magically going to recoup Amazon's losses on this boondoggle.


Attempting to hold both sides of the conversation


What on earth are you talking about?
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#167  Postby Matt_B » Nov 07, 2022 12:29 am

I'd suspect that it's more of a case of alt-righters descending upon a production that's got genuine issues with both its writing and attention to detail, and making the narrative all about race when that's not really a problem, because that's invariably what they do.

They won't pick on shows like Game of Thrones - that terrible final season maybe excepted - in spite of similarly diverse casting choices, because the fans will stick up for it.

The ultimate example of this is Hamilton. The casting is utterly ahistorical but nobody gives a fuck - racists aside - because it tells a strong story in a compelling fashion.
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#168  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:30 am

This contention that RoP has 'bombed'... is that actually true? I mean, it's something I should know really given my job, but it's not like I care particularly.

Viewership tallies suggest it had a quite positive response, albeit there are difficulties in knowing what exactly is being measured simply by views.

Certain online aggregators of reviews tend to show a negative reception, but such surveys are hardly an indication of commercial success.

Instead, as is typically the case, the only time we'll know if RoP is a success will be whether Amazon renews for a 3rd season.

I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?
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#169  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:32 am

Azaghal wrote:
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Like I said: theologians of the Church of Tolkien. You can observe one of them in action here. :popcorn:


Blaming RoP bombing on overly picky racist alt-right nerds isn't magically going to recoup Amazon's losses on this boondoggle.


Attempting to hold both sides of the conversation


What on earth are you talking about?



Your repeated bait and switch whereby you contend that I, or some other person here, is claiming that RoP failed because of alt-right activities. No one said this. No one but you. You said it many times comparative to the number of posts you've made here.
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#170  Postby Greg the Grouper » Nov 07, 2022 12:33 am

Azaghal wrote:No one said they were good values. But they obviously had a system of values like anyone does.


I mean, maybe 'power by any means necessary'? It's not like fascists have ever actually cared about the things they profess to be super worried about.

She's awfully large out in front. In addition, there's no way the pics she uploads with bare feet and talking about just constantly dribbling milk constantly after pregnancy isn't done for some sort of publicity.


Doesn't sound particularly egregious, if I'm honest. Wait, are bare feet uncouthe now?
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#171  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:34 am

Azaghal wrote:
Greg the Grouper wrote:Also, just super curous, why Abby Shapiro specifically?


She's awfully large out in front. In addition, there's no way the pics she uploads with bare feet and talking about just constantly dribbling milk after pregnancy isn't done for some sort of publicity.


Wut?
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#172  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:38 am

Spearthrower wrote:I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?


Haruspicy would be an actual attempt at providing supporting detail, however misguided, which is already a lot better than what you have had on offer here. I would have sworn I referenced this already but anyway:



Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power bled out viewers week after week, according to Variety. And they're being called out for their lack of transparency when it comes to ACTUAL viewership numbers. Will Amazon's Lord of the Rings go down in history as being one of Hollywood's biggest financial disasters? Time will tell...


I'm sure the sweaty alt-right hambone contingent on *chan imageboards is poisoning the minds of Variety writers.
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#173  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:43 am

Spearthrower wrote:
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Greg the Grouper wrote:Also, just super curous, why Abby Shapiro specifically?


She's awfully large out in front. In addition, there's no way the pics she uploads with bare feet and talking about just constantly dribbling milk after pregnancy isn't done for some sort of publicity.


Wut?


She posts these pictures and inevitably a bunch of the usual suspects switch away from their /pol/ tabs and show up to flood the comments with all sorts of lewd remarks. She can't have no clue about what is going on. I don't have a dog in that race myself. I'm really much more disappointed that she plays an Elf in Dungeons & Dragons:



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#174  Postby Animavore » Nov 07, 2022 12:45 am

Spearthrower wrote:This contention that RoP has 'bombed'... is that actually true? I mean, it's something I should know really given my job, but it's not like I care particularly.

Viewership tallies suggest it had a quite positive response, albeit there are difficulties in knowing what exactly is being measured simply by views.

Certain online aggregators of reviews tend to show a negative reception, but such surveys are hardly an indication of commercial success.

Instead, as is typically the case, the only time we'll know if RoP is a success will be whether Amazon renews for a 3rd season.

I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?



Don't think so. It's number 3 in Amazon Prime's charts this week (knocked out by two new shows) and was number one every week it was airing.
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#175  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:52 am

Azaghal wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?


Haruspicy would be an actual attempt at providing supporting detail, however misguided, which is already a lot better than what you have had on offer here.


You still seem unable to distinguish reality from your navel.

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Azaghal wrote:I would have sworn I referenced this already but anyway:



This is your reference?

And you've been agitating at me to provide a citation?

Sorry, I should've mentioned that Dave down the pub said, so it must be true.



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Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power bled out viewers week after week, according to Variety. And they're being called out for their lack of transparency when it comes to ACTUAL viewership numbers. Will Amazon's Lord of the Rings go down in history as being one of Hollywood's biggest financial disasters? Time will tell...


So let me see how this goes.

You decide in advance what you believe, then you go looking for something - whatever it is - to corroborate that.

Hmmm...

https://screenrant.com/lotr-rings-power ... p-records/

Rings Of Power Viewership Numbers Revealed (& They Are HUGE)

Amazon reveals its viewership numbers for the very first time for The Rings of Power, and they show how incredibly successful the series already is.



And now the universe must clearly implode due to these fundamentally irreconcilable realities.

Or else, you know, the fact they can report the same thing in different ways is indicative of interpretation.

I'd say that a show which premieres with more than 20 million viewers is very hard to credibly describe as 'bombing' unless there's another motivation for doing so.


Azaghal wrote:I'm sure the sweaty alt-right hambone contingent on *chan imageboards is poisoning the minds of Variety writers.


I have to agree that you do seem sure of that given the number of times and various ways in which you've contended it.
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#176  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:53 am

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She posts these pictures and inevitably a bunch of the usual suspects switch away from their /pol/ tabs and show up to flood the comments with all sorts of lewd remarks. She can't have no clue about what is going on. I don't have a dog in that race myself. I'm really much more disappointed that she plays an Elf in Dungeons & Dragons:


Ahh it was gossip and innuendo - no wonder I didn't understand it.
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#177  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:54 am

Animavore wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:This contention that RoP has 'bombed'... is that actually true? I mean, it's something I should know really given my job, but it's not like I care particularly.

Viewership tallies suggest it had a quite positive response, albeit there are difficulties in knowing what exactly is being measured simply by views.

Certain online aggregators of reviews tend to show a negative reception, but such surveys are hardly an indication of commercial success.

Instead, as is typically the case, the only time we'll know if RoP is a success will be whether Amazon renews for a 3rd season.

I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?



Don't think so. It's number 3 in Amazon Prime's charts this week (knocked out by two new shows) and was number one every week it was airing.



Bizarre, yet someone here who's very interested in skeptical establishment of facts is quite insistent that it has, in fact, 'bombed'! I wonder why that might be. :)
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#178  Postby Azaghal » Nov 07, 2022 12:56 am

Animavore wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:This contention that RoP has 'bombed'... is that actually true? I mean, it's something I should know really given my job, but it's not like I care particularly.

Viewership tallies suggest it had a quite positive response, albeit there are difficulties in knowing what exactly is being measured simply by views.

Certain online aggregators of reviews tend to show a negative reception, but such surveys are hardly an indication of commercial success.

Instead, as is typically the case, the only time we'll know if RoP is a success will be whether Amazon renews for a 3rd season.

I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?


Don't think so. It's number 3 in Amazon Prime's charts this week (knocked out by two new shows) and was number one every week it was airing.


I imagine you're willing to believe that it's great to be a worker at an Amazon sweatshop "fulfillment center" too in addition to their self-reported metrics about RoP.

Let's ignore the solid track record of shows and other media like She-Hulk turning into total disasters and believe that there's finally an exception.
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#179  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 07, 2022 12:58 am

Azaghal wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:This contention that RoP has 'bombed'... is that actually true? I mean, it's something I should know really given my job, but it's not like I care particularly.

Viewership tallies suggest it had a quite positive response, albeit there are difficulties in knowing what exactly is being measured simply by views.

Certain online aggregators of reviews tend to show a negative reception, but such surveys are hardly an indication of commercial success.

Instead, as is typically the case, the only time we'll know if RoP is a success will be whether Amazon renews for a 3rd season.

I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?


Don't think so. It's number 3 in Amazon Prime's charts this week (knocked out by two new shows) and was number one every week it was airing.


I imagine you're willing to believe that it's great to be a worker at an Amazon sweatshop "fulfillment center" too in addition to their self-reported metrics about RoP.

Let's ignore the solid track record of shows and other media like She-Hulk turning into total disasters and believe that there's finally an exception.



He imagines it on your behalf, Ani.

It's almost like he doesn't need people to have a conversation with when he can just formulate both sides of the discourse. Far more efficient that way when you've got a point you're driving at. Less sloppy waiting for people to say the things you've been prepared to counter when you can just say it for them.
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#180  Postby Regina » Nov 07, 2022 1:00 am

Azaghal wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:I don't know where the idea that RoP has 'bombed' comes from.... maybe reading goat entrails?


Haruspicy would be an actual attempt at providing supporting detail, however misguided, which is already a lot better than what you have had on offer here. I would have sworn I referenced this already but anyway:



Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power bled out viewers week after week, according to Variety. And they're being called out for their lack of transparency when it comes to ACTUAL viewership numbers. Will Amazon's Lord of the Rings go down in history as being one of Hollywood's biggest financial disasters? Time will tell...


I'm sure the sweaty alt-right hambone contingent on *chan imageboards is poisoning the minds of Variety writers.

Again, why are you getting your knickers in a twist about this supposed financial disaster if you aren’t a shareholder?
Or is it part of the job description of a cleric in the Church of J.R.R.T. to influence audiences that might be straying from the
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