Azaghal wrote:What can be done is extrapolating how he might react from known biographical details about the man, rather than what Spearthrower did, which was projecting his own psychological characteristics onto Tolkien.

Azaghal wrote:"Look, I know you're right but fuck ALL the way off."

Good times!

Spearthrower wrote:Stop rubbing yourself off in public and no one will have anything to comment on.

The penispenispenis obsession is entirely yours and I am not in public.

Azaghal wrote:I can actually supply citations if needed and won't make excuses.

Azaghal wrote:More importantly, Nielsen is the same organization whose numbers Amazon has consistently found fault with and the same organization whose numbers suggest that RoP is running out of steam as early as season 1. Honestly this whole situation is looking like a recap of when some (former) high school friends gloated about how scuffed Burning Man the Dakota Access Pipeline protests succeeded in preventing oil infrastructure not actually on an Indian reservation from being constructed, leading to opportunities for hilarity like pointing out that the supposed images of the popo burning down tipis were actually just still frames from the HBO production of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:What can be done is extrapolating how he might react from known biographical details about the man, rather than what Spearthrower did, which was projecting his own psychological characteristics onto Tolkien.

Which empirically did not happen in the slightest as can be seen by what I actually wrote

Spearthrower wrote:You have an obsession with obsessions, doncha?

Spearthrower wrote:Pretend that actual evidence should be dismissed on the grounds of evidence-free declarations about conspiracy theories, while expecting others to find your mate Dave from down the pub's opinion to be perceived as gospel.

Spearthrower wrote:Writing a sentence that states the opposite, claims that the very source you keep ignoring or trying to explain away is in fact telling us the exact contrary to what it clearly says is beyond disingenuous, but is entirely to form.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:What can be done is extrapolating how he might react from known biographical details about the man, rather than what Spearthrower did, which was projecting his own psychological characteristics onto Tolkien.

Which empirically did not happen in the slightest as can be seen by what I actually wrote

OK. Why would Tolkien like RoP?

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Spearthrower wrote:You have an obsession with obsessions, doncha?

No, just pointing out that you'd be seen as making a better case if you would talk more about non-cock-related subjects and making "NO U" responses when encouraged to do so.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:Pretend that actual evidence should be dismissed on the grounds of evidence-free declarations about conspiracy theories, while expecting others to find your mate Dave from down the pub's opinion to be perceived as gospel.

Except that Business Insider for example isn't "my mate Dave from the pub" and, honestly, neither is reviewer Nerdrotic.

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Spearthrower wrote:Writing a sentence that states the opposite, claims that the very source you keep ignoring or trying to explain away is in fact telling us the exact contrary to what it clearly says is beyond disingenuous, but is entirely to form.

Nielsen's numbers also show a decline in viewership with each episode, which is why Amazon has had a bug up their ass about them. You'd think they would have had more ink to spill on their flagship series in the Q3 report besides the recycled figure from Jennifer Salke, from three weeks earlier, about "bro trust me bro we're about to crack 100 million viewers bro" but it appears they don't really have all that much to trumpet about. That would go a long way towards explaining all the deleted YouTube comments and IMDb reviews. I'm not saying any of this to dissuade you from ceasing to be so smug and up your own ass about the subject matter; as in a number of past instances I've experienced, that part comes a bit later. And boy is it funny!

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Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:What can be done is extrapolating how he might react from known biographical details about the man, rather than what Spearthrower did, which was projecting his own psychological characteristics onto Tolkien.

Which empirically did not happen in the slightest as can be seen by what I actually wrote

OK. Why would Tolkien like RoP?

Uh how about you read what I already wrote and you supposedly replied to?

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/the-a ... l#p2792474

Spearthrower wrote:I'll talk about what I like, when I like, but thanks for your kind suggestions.

Azaghal wrote:Except that Business Insider, for example, doesn't present any evidence that supports your repeated claim that RoP is 'bombing'.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Which empirically did not happen in the slightest as can be seen by what I actually wrote

OK. Why would Tolkien like RoP?

Uh how about you read what I already wrote and you supposedly replied to?

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/the-a ... l#p2792474

"I think Tolkien would love to see his work continue to mean something to future generation"

Which would be fine except that "his work" ≠ RoP.

I think Tolkien would love to see his work continue to mean something to future generations - it was, after all, an emulation of a mythic cultural narrative, and mythic cultural narratives survive the eons by being retold in a way that resonates with current generations.

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Spearthrower wrote:I'll talk about what I like, when I like, but thanks for your kind suggestions.

Well I guess continuing to make creepy, perverted remarks is always an option.

Azaghal wrote:

Azaghal wrote:Except that Business Insider, for example, doesn't present any evidence that supports your repeated claim that RoP is 'bombing'.

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(Look everyone! It's Mary Sue Galadriel!)

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Azaghal wrote:...and this is coming from a mainstream news article written by someone who claimed that any griping about black Dwarves being needlessly shoehorned into the series despite their two bases in Tolkien's work is just motivated by "racism".

Azaghal wrote:I can guarantee that season 2 is going to be even funnier than the current shitshow.

Spearthrower wrote:If viewer count didn't drop off after 2 episodes, it'd be highly unusual.

Spearthrower wrote:But this is all wholly irrelevant when you can simply look at the viewing numbers and respective ranking. 988 million minutes is 988 million minutes, no amount of nose-wiggling can change that.

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Azaghal wrote:I can guarantee that season 2 is going to be even funnier than the current shitshow.

Because the guarantees of someone willfully ignoring facts and chanting their false wish-thinking like a mantra are worth a wazz.

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Spearthrower wrote:If viewer count didn't drop off after 2 episodes, it'd be highly unusual.

It's been continuing to drop ever since, which calls into question with how much it's really "resonating" as you put it.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:But this is all wholly irrelevant when you can simply look at the viewing numbers and respective ranking. 988 million minutes is 988 million minutes, no amount of nose-wiggling can change that.

There were a lot of eyeballs on lady Ghostbusters too. It still ended up bombing, which is also what's going to happen to RoP if it can't reap well over 1 billion USD worth of revenue.

Azaghal wrote:There were a lot of eyeballs on lady Ghostbusters too. It still ended up bombing, which is also what's going to happen to RoP if it can't reap well over 1 billion USD worth of revenue.

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Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:I can guarantee that season 2 is going to be even funnier than the current shitshow.

Because the guarantees of someone willfully ignoring facts and chanting their false wish-thinking like a mantra are worth a wazz.

I am, again, reminded of how I was at a bar browsing a former friend's Facebook on my phone and seeing gloating about the (very) temporary stay of construction of the DAPL. I think the way he mocked what I had to say about it actually going down was something along the lines of "mark my words!" and I of course heckled the shit out of him after seeing this until he made nearly his whole timeline private. It's a good thing users here can't do that.

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Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:I can guarantee that season 2 is going to be even funnier than the current shitshow.

Because the guarantees of someone willfully ignoring facts and chanting their false wish-thinking like a mantra are worth a wazz.

I am, again, reminded of how I was at a bar browsing a former friend's Facebook on my phone and seeing gloating about the (very) temporary stay of construction of the DAPL. I think the way he mocked what I had to say about it actually going down was something along the lines of "mark my words!" and I of course heckled the shit out of him after seeing this until he made nearly his whole timeline private. It's a good thing users here can't do that.

Great, so you will be shown right one day, you will have the last laugh.

Right now though, you're wrong, and the laughter's pointed AT you.

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:If viewer count didn't drop off after 2 episodes, it'd be highly unusual.

It's been continuing to drop ever since, which calls into question with how much it's really "resonating" as you put it.

Oh look!

ANOTHER evidence free assertion.

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Azaghal wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:If viewer count didn't drop off after 2 episodes, it'd be highly unusual.

It's been continuing to drop ever since, which calls into question with how much it's really "resonating" as you put it.

Oh look!

ANOTHER evidence free assertion.

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Spearthrower wrote:And?

Still amounts to 988 million minutes.

You seem to think there's some cunning way to make this number not be true.

Or just distract from it.

Regardless, your repeated contentions that RoP is 'bombing' is shown to be laughably disconnected from reality, presumably because you get yours from social media echo chambers that vim you up to fight the lefties wherever they may be.

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Spearthrower wrote:And?

Still amounts to 988 million minutes.

You seem to think there's some cunning way to make this number not be true.

Or just distract from it.

Regardless, your repeated contentions that RoP is 'bombing' is shown to be laughably disconnected from reality, presumably because you get yours from social media echo chambers that vim you up to fight the lefties wherever they may be.

No, I regularly entertain ideas from people whose ideas sharply differ from my own, because I want to make sure I am not in an "echo chamber", as you put it.

Azaghal wrote:But I'm sure you could tell me a LOT about avoiding echo chambers, huh? If so, go into detail. Where are these non-echo chambers you frequent? Oh, right.

Azaghal wrote:And you made a big song and dance about ">muh Nielsen >muh NIelsen >muh Nielsen", which was at least more on point than speculating about my penis, but the trouble here is that your own Nielsen numbers show that RoP is flagging, exponentially so. Season 1 is already looking awful and season 2 is only going to be worse. Will they even make it through the full slated five seasons?