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The unofficial comic book/graphic novel thread!

#1  Postby Matt8819 » Sep 26, 2011 11:08 am

So I couldn't find a recent comic book/strip/graphic novel thread(but it's 5 am and I can barely keep my eyes open), so I figured I'd start one! So, what do you like, what do you love, what do you hate?

To start it off, here's a couple of the best titles I've ever read:
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It's funny, smart, poignant and in general downright amazing.

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I never really thought I would enjoy this one as much as I am, but holy intercourse is it good.
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#2  Postby rJD » Sep 26, 2011 1:30 pm

Watchmen (of course) but I've also liked Tamara Drewe, Posey Simmonds' modern retelling of Hardy's Far From the Madding Crowd, and I'm halfway through Rise: The Story of the Egyptian Revolution As Written Shortly Before It Began, which has a really interesting and novel (to me) take on the background to the Arab Spring.
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#3  Postby j.mills » Sep 26, 2011 6:25 pm

Speaking of Posy Simmonds, I loved her Gemma Bovery:
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Craig Thompson's Blankets is a terrific chronicle of first love:
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Rick Veitch's Can't Get No, charting the protagonist's self-seeking ramble around the USA, is very unusual: loads of words, loads of pictures, but no direct connection between the two. The text is sort of discursive essay that glances off the illustrated story, an odd but fascinating experiment:
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Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid On Earth, by Chris Ware, is a remarkable graphic achievement, its clean lines telling the poignant story of the middle-aged under-achieving Jimmy and also of his father and grandfather. The entire plot of this big book is depicted in a wordless diagram on the opening pages!
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Watchmen, Cerebus, Bone... I haven't read many, but they've all been great! It's such a creative and inventive medium. :dopey:
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#4  Postby Matt8819 » Sep 26, 2011 10:14 pm



That looks really interesting, I may have to check that out.

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Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid On Earth, by Chris Ware, is a remarkable graphic achievement, its clean lines telling the poignant story of the middle-aged under-achieving Jimmy and also of his father and grandfather. The entire plot of this big book is depicted in a wordless diagram on the opening pages!
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That looks really good, too. Damn, I need to read more comics...

Ok, on the subject of "Tommy Wiseau would love to be credited with this..."
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Batman Odyssey.

I would go in to the ways this book sucks, but I stopped reading after 4 issues, cause it was just so bad. That link has a fairly in depth write up on the various levels of badness, though. It is seriously like a comic book version of The Room.

Just to clarify though, that's the cover image from the fourth issue. There's some dialogue, but...well, fuck it. You really don't need to read it, cause it doesn't help clarify what the fuck that picture is anyway. It's supposed to be batman holding a kid, all guilty about letting the kids dad die or some shit, but what it looks like is batman's about to take a bite out of the little shits face. Or...or maybe a dead animal, I dunno.
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#5  Postby Varangian » Sep 26, 2011 10:45 pm

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Speaking of Batman, I absolutely love the Batman/Judge Dredd crossover "Judgment on Gotham", drawn by Simon Bisley. It's a one-shot, and hilarious.
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#6  Postby smudge » Sep 27, 2011 6:57 am

I'm into retro stuff at the moment, mainly for the art.

Picked up the first hardback Prince Valiant collection from Fantagraphics;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantagraph ... 9060/show/
A beautifully produced book.

I love old 60's Kirby stuff.
I must pick up some of the Alex Toth collections around too...as soon as funds allow!
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#7  Postby Mike_L » Sep 27, 2011 7:24 am

Varangian wrote:Image

Speaking of Batman, I absolutely love the Batman/Judge Dredd crossover "Judgment on Gotham", drawn by Simon Bisley. It's a one-shot, and hilarious.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Bisely's art is superb! The work he did on 2000AD's Sláine (back in the late '90s) is also very memorable!
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#8  Postby Mike_L » Sep 27, 2011 7:37 am

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Bought this one.... mainly for Alex Ross' superb artwork. (Don't much care for the religious undertones of Waid's story). But if I compare the gouache paintings of Bisely (Varangian's post above) with those of Ross, I'd have to say that I prefer the former. Alex Ross makes extensive use of photo references and his work is very refined. By comparison, Bisely's work is "looser" and, in my opinion, more dynamic.
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#9  Postby Mike_L » Sep 27, 2011 7:51 am

smudge wrote:I'm into retro stuff at the moment, mainly for the art.

Picked up the first hardback Prince Valiant collection from Fantagraphics;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantagraph ... 9060/show/
A beautifully produced book.

I love old 60's Kirby stuff.
I must pick up some of the Alex Toth collections around too...as soon as funds allow!

Love the work of Jack Kirby! Also that of one of his contemporaries, Jim Steranko!
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#10  Postby smudge » Sep 27, 2011 8:42 am

Mike_L wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Bisely's art is superb! The work he did on 2000AD's Sláine (back in the late '90s) is also very memorable!


I've always thought the black and white ABC Warriors stuff Bisley did (his first pro work I think...?) for 2000AD his best ever. But I'm bias, as a rule I dislike painted art and love black line work!
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#11  Postby smudge » Sep 27, 2011 8:43 am

Mike_L wrote:
Love the work of Jack Kirby! Also that of one of his contemporaries, Jim Steranko!


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Oh yeh! Big Steranko fan!
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#12  Postby Mike_L » Sep 27, 2011 1:21 pm

Oops! I see I misspelled "Bisley".... :oops:

smudge wrote:....as a rule I dislike painted art and love black line work!


It's the "digital airbrush" rendering that I'm not too fond of.... tends to give everything a too-soft, too-smooth look. Comics painted with traditional media look good (IMO) when they're done with opaque gouache. I like the aquarelle (transparent watercolour) considerably less.
But yes, it's the pencil and pen work that's paramount. Clean, solid lines (Kirby) and balanced use of hatching and cross-hatching (Bolland) make for some of the most impressive of all comic-book art.
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#13  Postby akigr8 » Sep 27, 2011 3:24 pm

100 bullets is my favourite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Bullets
Both the writing and artwork in 100 Bullets exemplifies the noir and pulp genres of popular modern fiction. It presents morally ambiguous stories with dark realism. Consistent with noir convention, most of the characters are deeply flawed.[2] As is also quite common in such genres, 100 Bullets frequently portrays stylized and graphic violence.

100 Bullets is notable for creator/writer Brian Azzarello's realistic use of regional and local dialects/accents, as well as the frequent, sometimes dense use of slang and oblique, metaphorical language in his characters' dialogue.

While initially presented as an episodic series of self-contained storylines, 100 Bullets eventually becomes a sprawling crime saga that embraces a sense that everyone and everything is connected.
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The initial plot of 100 Bullets hinges on the question of whether people would take the chance to get away with revenge. The mysterious Agent Graves approaches someone who has been the victim of a terrible wrong. Graves gives them the chance to set things right by providing them a handgun, the eponymous 100 bullets, and documentation of the person primarily and personally responsible for the recipient's woes. He informs the candidate that the bullets are completely untraceable, and any law enforcement investigation that uncovers one of these bullets will immediately stop.
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#14  Postby Mr.Samsa » Sep 28, 2011 3:40 am

I think some of the best graphic novels have been listed already like 100 Bullets and Watchmen etc, Sin City is a great read and of course Bone is brilliant:

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A lesser known but incredibly interesting graphic novel is "Black Hole":

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Set in the suburbs of Seattle during the mid-1970s, the comics follow a group of mostly middle class teenagers who, over the summer, contract a mysterious sexually transmitted disease known as "the Bug" or "the teen plague", which causes them to develop bizarre unique physical mutations, turning them into social outcasts.


It basically chronicles the progression of AIDS, but in a more surreal and fictional way.

Also, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac is a staple for anyone into dark humour:

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And if anyone has managed to avoid watching Will Smith's version of I Am Legend, I recommend the Steve Niles' adaptation of Richard Matheson's original.
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#15  Postby mattthomas » Sep 28, 2011 8:34 am

The walking dead, I've been reading this for years so I was naturally a little worried and excited when AMC created the TV series but thus far it seems to have done quite well. I'm waiting for issue 89 right now, a week to go :)
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#16  Postby Matt8819 » Sep 28, 2011 11:02 am

OH OH OH OH OH I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT CHEW!!!
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#17  Postby j.mills » Sep 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Russell: The Saga of a Peaceful Man is a warm, funny, post-hippy series by Pete Loveday:

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#18  Postby akigr8 » Sep 29, 2011 6:47 am

Mr.Samsa wrote:I think some of the best graphic novels have been listed already like 100 Bullets and Watchmen etc, Sin City is a great read and of course Bone is brilliant:

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DOH! Bone is such an obvious favourite that I forgot to mention it. :doh:

Black Hole looks interesting.


Most Neil Gaiman comics are great, so is V for Vendetta.
I recommend Y: The last man
On July 17, 2002, something (referred to as a plague) simultaneously kills every living mammal possessing a Y chromosome — including embryos, fertilized eggs, and even sperm. The only exceptions appear to be New York residents Yorick Brown, a young amateur escape artist, and his male Capuchin monkey, Ampersand.

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#19  Postby Mr.Samsa » Sep 29, 2011 7:06 am

Damn, and you reminded me that I should have mentioned The Sandman!
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#20  Postby j.mills » Sep 29, 2011 5:59 pm

I kinda thought The Sandman went without saying, like The Dark Knight Returns. :dunno:
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