Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

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Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

#1  Postby The_Metatron » Oct 26, 2017 7:45 pm



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Re: Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

#2  Postby Animavore » Oct 26, 2017 7:47 pm

I thought the answer was going to be "Your (generic, not your mom, Meta) Mom".

Exit: It IS interesting though.
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#3  Postby The_Metatron » Oct 26, 2017 7:51 pm

Here's the one I chose:

[Reveal] Spoiler: my guess
I thought it was the girl leaning on the rail. It appears that she is looking at the fellow in the foreground on the right from afar with great interest. I don't think Renoir painted himself into this painting. It could be the girl on the rail is speaking to the fellow in the dark brown bowler, though.
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#4  Postby Animavore » Oct 26, 2017 7:53 pm

The_Metatron wrote:Here's the one I chose:

[Reveal] Spoiler: my guess
I thought it was the girl leaning on the rail. It appears that she is looking at the fellow in the foreground on the right from afar with great interest. I don't think Renoir painted himself into this painting. It could be the girl on the rail is speaking to the fellow in the dark brown bowler, though.


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#5  Postby pelfdaddy » Oct 27, 2017 8:17 am

I guessed the dude on the right wearing the sweater.
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#6  Postby zulumoose » Oct 27, 2017 8:35 am

you wouldn't ever be in any doubt which figure he was in love with


Really? Maybe an avid art student would see something the rest of us can't, but I think that statement is a bit of a stretch, a kind of hindsight 20/20 comment.
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#7  Postby aban57 » Oct 27, 2017 11:29 am

Never understood why, but paintings never worked on me. Especially abstract ones. This one is pretty impressive technically, very detailed, and yet makes me feel nothing.
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Re: Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

#8  Postby zulumoose » Oct 27, 2017 12:16 pm

Paintings, and especially charcoal or pencil drawings, can stir up feelings in me. It is very context sensitive though. I can see something remarkable in a painting one day, then go back to see it again and wonder what it was that impressed me.

I own one piece of art, a print of a colour chalk drawing of a runner. I have always looked at it and been able to connect with the feeling I get on a really good run, when I am fit and feel like I can go on forever.

I had the bottom trimmed to get rid of the text, something like this should not be captioned.

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#9  Postby felltoearth » Nov 02, 2017 3:33 am

Very cool story.
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Re: Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

#10  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 02, 2017 4:25 am

zulumoose wrote:
you wouldn't ever be in any doubt which figure he was in love with


Really? Maybe an avid art student would see something the rest of us can't, but I think that statement is a bit of a stretch, a kind of hindsight 20/20 comment.

I though that, also.

I tend to take the idea a bit further, internally. I have long thought that if I need to take a class, or in any way have to try to figure out what the artist meant when he wrote/sculpted/painted/.../composed/.../ , that artist failed.


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Re: Who was Renoir's lover in "Luncheon of the Boating Party"?

#11  Postby zulumoose » Nov 02, 2017 7:54 am

I have long thought that if I need to take a class, or in any way have to try to figure out what the artist meant when he wrote/sculpted/painted/.../composed/.../ , that artist failed.


I disagree there. You are assuming the artist wanted to reach the general public. Art is often commissioned for a specific audience, or intended to be sold to a niche group. After all, you only have one original painting/sculpture etc to sell.

Ideally all art should reach everyone, but there is a reason novels that are bestsellers are not set works in school. To cater to the widest audience you have to drop to a lowest common denominator level, and sacrifice your abilities, if you are on a higher level. If something is "deep" it means Joe Soap can't see it, otherwise nothing would be.

That said, I do think much of art is false and overrated. A really well written novel is appreciated by the educated and there is usually agreement, not so much with paintings, and I suspect that if you sneak a glass of cheap wine into a blind taste test, some experts will rate it as among the best. Some things just lend themselves to over-interpretation.
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