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God-man on ventilator/pacemaker/CRRT

#1  Postby DoctorE » Apr 05, 2011 1:50 pm

Where is your gawd now... ;)

Godman Satya Sai Baba, who was admitted to hospital at Puttaparthi, the pilgrim town in Anantapur district in Andhra Pradesh on March 28 with lung infections, continues to be critical. He is on ventilator support and receiving kidney dialysis. A medical bulletin released by Dr A N Safaya, Direc
tor of Sri Satya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences Hospital said that though the condition of Sai Baba remained more or less the same as on Monday, his level of consciousness had considerably improved.

"His vital systems are in stable condition. He still continues to be on assisted ventilation through ventilator and CRRT, which is a slow dialysis process," it said.

While the doctors at the hospital, which is one of the finest hospitals run by the Satya Sai Trust, is doing everything possible, the state government and the legions of devotees of the Baba are not leaving much to chance. The state government deputed two top IAS officers, Principal Secretary Health Dr P V Ramesh and former Principal Health secretary L V Subrahmanyam to Puttaparthi to personally supervise and coordinate all the health care measures for the 85-year Baba.

The Chief Minister N Kiran Kumar Reddy reviewed Baba`s condition at a high level meeting. "We are coordinating with the trust hospital to provide all the best possible medicare to the Baba," he said and added that he was deputing Revenue Minister Raghuveera Reddy and Industry Minister Mrs Gita Reddy to Puttaparrthi for the purpose.

The devotees of Baba are mobilising medical help worldwide. Two medical experts from USA arrived this morning to help local doctors. Sai Seva trust sources said more specialist doctors from London and Australia are on their way to Puttaparthi.

The Chief Minister said though he had earlier planned to go to Puttaparthi, but postponed the same as he wanted everyone to remain focused on Baba treatment.

Revenue Minister Raghuveerra Reddy, who returned from Puttaparthi and gave a report on Sai Baba condition to the Chief Minister, later appealed to his followers not to trust rumors and not to get emotional.

On Monday hundreds of devotees tried to break into the hospital after rumours spread that Baba was critical and not responding to treatment. They damaged some vehicles and tried to attack the district collector and other officials for not allowing them to have a glimpse of the ailing Baba.

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Re: God-man on ventilator/pacemaker/CRRT

#2  Postby DanDare » Apr 06, 2011 8:36 am

Sathya Saibaba was born in Puttaparthi, Andra Pradesh to Peddavenkappa and Easwaramma Raju in a poor family. He was christened Satyanarayana by His parents. His very birth showed significant events portraying Him as an Avatar. It is said that His mother had dreamt of Lord Sathyanarayana and saw a a blue light rolling into making her faint. It is also said that musical instruments miraculously played on their own in His house.

As a child of eight years, Sathya Sai had the powers to compose bhajans spontaneously and was highly talented in fine arts like drama, music, dance and poetry. He joined the High School at Uravakonda. On 8th March 1940, a strange behaviour took over him like that of being stung by a scorpion.

Following this event He often became totally unconscious of the happenings, refused food and started reciting slokas and elaborated on Hindu scriptures. In March 1940, He claimed Himself to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Saibaba and adopted the name 'Sai Baba'. Sathya Saibaba then quit school and at the age of fourteen on October 20, 1940, started teaching bhajans to people who flocked to Him. Following this, a Mandir was built for His devotees which is now called the 'Old Mandir' and later the now existing Prashanthi Nilayam at Puttaparthi came into being.

Miracles

Sathya Saibaba is widely known for the numerous miracles that he worked out. He materialized small idols, vibudhi (sacred ash), kumkum, turmeric, fruits, Lingam etc in person as well in the homes of His devotees. He also displayed sudden miraculous disappearance, appearing in dreams and visions, miraculous healing etc. Miracles are reportedly happening even to this day.

Teachings

Sathya Sai Baba's basic teachings advocates Truth, Right conduct, Non-violence, Love and Peace. His teachings are open to people following different religions with not needing to give up their faith. Further His teachings are Advaitic in nature about the same essence being the substratum of all that is created. His teachings also emphasizes and glorifies the role of women, especially 'mothers'.


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#3  Postby brookexy » Dec 06, 2011 10:42 am

When somebody is close to dying of natural causes, why can't they put a pacemaker in them? when someone is about to die of natural causes (their heart stops right?). So why can't a doctor put a pacemaker in them to make their heart continue beating? Wouldn't they live longer?
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#4  Postby kiore » Dec 06, 2011 10:50 am

brookexy wrote:When somebody is close to dying of natural causes, why can't they put a pacemaker in them? when someone is about to die of natural causes (their heart stops right?). So why can't a doctor put a pacemaker in them to make their heart continue beating? Wouldn't they live longer?


Well some of these things do happen it depends on what the natural causes are. The pacemaker will work if the SA node (natuaral pacemaker) is damaged and that is the reason the heart is not beating properly, this however is not the only reason for heart failure which could be due to congestion (pumping problem due to pressure) or ischemia (pumping problem due to pump damage). If breathing ceases artificial ventilation can be used, but at some point an accumulation of failures prevent these actions from being effective.

In this case the person is already having artificial ventilation to assist or cause breathing, and on dialysis which indicates they also have kidney failure.
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#5  Postby trubble76 » Dec 06, 2011 11:03 am

DanDare wrote:
Sathya Saibaba was born in Puttaparthi, Andra Pradesh to Peddavenkappa and Easwaramma Raju in a poor family. He was christened Satyanarayana by His parents. His very birth showed significant events portraying Him as an Avatar. It is said that His mother had dreamt of Lord Sathyanarayana and saw a a blue light rolling into making her faint. It is also said that musical instruments miraculously played on their own in His house.

As a child of eight years, Sathya Sai had the powers to compose bhajans spontaneously and was highly talented in fine arts like drama, music, dance and poetry. He joined the High School at Uravakonda. On 8th March 1940, a strange behaviour took over him like that of being stung by a scorpion.

Following this event He often became totally unconscious of the happenings, refused food and started reciting slokas and elaborated on Hindu scriptures. In March 1940, He claimed Himself to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Saibaba and adopted the name 'Sai Baba'. Sathya Saibaba then quit school and at the age of fourteen on October 20, 1940, started teaching bhajans to people who flocked to Him. Following this, a Mandir was built for His devotees which is now called the 'Old Mandir' and later the now existing Prashanthi Nilayam at Puttaparthi came into being.

Miracles

Sathya Saibaba is widely known for the numerous miracles that he worked out. He materialized small idols, vibudhi (sacred ash), kumkum, turmeric, fruits, Lingam etc in person as well in the homes of His devotees. He also displayed sudden miraculous disappearance, appearing in dreams and visions, miraculous healing etc. Miracles are reportedly happening even to this day.

Teachings

Sathya Sai Baba's basic teachings advocates Truth, Right conduct, Non-violence, Love and Peace. His teachings are open to people following different religions with not needing to give up their faith. Further His teachings are Advaitic in nature about the same essence being the substratum of all that is created. His teachings also emphasizes and glorifies the role of women, especially 'mothers'.


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Hmmm. I expect that any second now some of those christians that claim that evidence and whatnot don't apply to religious experiences, will be accepting the Hindu faith and worshipping Mighty Krishna. Or do miracles only work when there are for you own religion?
Any christians here want to explain why they will undoubtable be ignoring these miraculous proofs of Hinduism and sticking with their old religion?
Are christian (or Islamic, or Jewish, etc) miracles the only real miracles?
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