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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#21  Postby klazmon » Jan 03, 2012 1:48 am

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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#22  Postby THWOTH » Jan 03, 2012 2:03 am

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The Plc wrote:Brian Cox is a physicist?


Yeah. He just does movies on the side. That's why you don't see him in many.
I preferred his more subtle Hannbal Lector, too.

He was great in the X-men too.

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The other one, the ex-pop star, has just had a series on the BBC about how wonderful and marvellous the universe it. Some say he is the Carl Sagan of the present age. No they do, really.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#23  Postby hackenslash » Jan 03, 2012 5:46 am

Just finished it. All in all, pretty good, and I picked up a few things I didn't know. It was a little boggy in places, but nothing I couldn't wade through, even the sections in which the equations were coming pretty thick.

I would say it's aimed at a higher lever than Why Does E=mc2, but not a great deal higher.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#24  Postby surreptitious57 » Jan 03, 2012 6:43 am

I find it easier to reference by breaking complex layers of information
down to their simplest components : so for example one can understand
the concept of spacetime by the mass of a planet distorting gravity like a
metal ball on a sheet that is stretched where it will naturally gravitate to the
middle, where the greater the mass, the greater the force exerted will also be

But when he gave the Royal Christmas Lecture I had difficulty in understanding how
no two electrons in the entire Universe can be in an identical state at the same time
I know it is true but I cannot understand it or at least not yet anyway. Maybe eventually

Cox is a great ambassador for Science. He is young and telegenic and easygoing and unlike
Dawkins does not really rail against religion - he does have an occasional swipe at astrologers
and new agers but only in passing. Has a dry sense of humour, which helps and looks too young
way too young to be a Professor of Physics but that is fine. We neeed more who can take Science
to the masses. There are some excellent presenters usually to be found on BBC 4 at various times :
Jim Al Khalili, Marcus Du Sautoy and Alice Roberts to name but three. We need these people because
we are probably not that scientifically educated as a nation. In 2009, on the one hundredth and fiftieth
anniversary of the publication of The Origin Of Species poll commissioned referenced only half the nation
accepting Evolution as scientific fact and that is no laughing matter. Once got 14 per cent in a Physics exam
so if I can have a passion for things scientific then so can anyone else. Ignorance not something to be proud of
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#25  Postby hackenslash » Jan 03, 2012 7:02 am

The only real criticism I have of the book is the sheer number of topics that were touched upon but then deemed beyond the scope of the book, some of which were quite disappointing, especially as many of them were being used as exemplary.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#26  Postby surreptitious57 » Jan 03, 2012 8:06 am

hackenslash wrote:
The only real criticism I have of the book is the sheer number of topics that were touched upon but then deemed beyond the scope of the book some of which were quite disappointing especially as many of them were being used as exemplary


Wonder if commercial factors influenced this. Because at the end
of the day, companies want to make a profit on their investment and
quantum mechanics does not sell all that well to the masses. So there may
have been some attempt at moderation here. Now I may be completely wrong
on this but I doubt if Brian Cox had complete editorial control over content since a
decision like that would have some influence from the publishers. Stephen Hawking was
told when he was writing A Brief History Of Space And Time that every equation put in would
half the readership. He therefore ended up writing the book that he had to rather than wanted to
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#27  Postby Animavore » Jan 03, 2012 11:46 am

THWOTH wrote:
Animavore wrote:
The Plc wrote:Brian Cox is a physicist?


Yeah. He just does movies on the side. That's why you don't see him in many.
I preferred his more subtle Hannbal Lector, too.

He was great in the X-men too.

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The other one, the ex-pop star, has just had a series on the BBC about how wonderful and marvellous the universe it. Some say he is the Carl Sagan of the present age. No they do, really.

D:Ream are making a new album and yes, Cox is back on keyboards :dance:











:ask: Oh wait! D:Ream were shite.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#28  Postby THWOTH » Jan 03, 2012 12:04 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
The only real criticism I have of the book is the sheer number of topics that were touched upon but then deemed beyond the scope of the book some of which were quite disappointing especially as many of them were being used as exemplary


Wonder if commercial factors influenced this. Because at the end
of the day, companies want to make a profit on their investment and
quantum mechanics does not sell all that well to the masses. So there may
have been some attempt at moderation here. Now I may be completely wrong
on this but I doubt if Brian Cox had complete editorial control over content since a
decision like that would have some influence from the publishers. Stephen Hawking was
told when he was writing A Brief History Of Space And Time that every equation put in would
half the readership. He therefore ended up writing the book that he had to rather than wanted to

You know surreptitious57, every time you make a line break my screen reader says "line break." It's fucking annoying. Read your text out loud and say "line break" at every line-break to see how fucking annoying this is, and also how it renders much of what you say gibberish - which is neither fair to you nor to me.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#29  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 03, 2012 4:14 pm

Came across this video of an interview with Brian Cox with Jonathan Ross. It is very interesting.

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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#30  Postby hackenslash » Jan 03, 2012 4:15 pm

Ah, the buttplug interview. :lol:
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#31  Postby trubble76 » Jan 03, 2012 4:19 pm

THWOTH wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
The only real criticism I have of the book is the sheer number of topics that were touched upon but then deemed beyond the scope of the book some of which were quite disappointing especially as many of them were being used as exemplary


Wonder if commercial factors influenced this. Because at the end
of the day, companies want to make a profit on their investment and
quantum mechanics does not sell all that well to the masses. So there may
have been some attempt at moderation here. Now I may be completely wrong
on this but I doubt if Brian Cox had complete editorial control over content since a
decision like that would have some influence from the publishers. Stephen Hawking was
told when he was writing A Brief History Of Space And Time that every equation put in would
half the readership. He therefore ended up writing the book that he had to rather than wanted to

You know surreptitious57, every time you make a line break my screen reader says "line break." It's fucking annoying. Read your text out loud and say "line break" at every line-break to see how fucking annoying this is, and also how it renders much of what you say gibberish - which is neither fair to you nor to me.


I do not enjoy reading text arranged like that, so I don't.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#32  Postby mraltair » Jan 03, 2012 7:33 pm

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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#33  Postby Animavore » Jan 03, 2012 7:43 pm

Don't read it then. That's what I do. Just scroll past :dunno:
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#34  Postby mraltair » Jan 03, 2012 7:59 pm

Sticking to struggling to read...I have to admit Cox's book is giving me a hard time, I've slowed down to a 'page a day' pace. I also find I'm just reading rather than understanding it. It's just all those clocks spreading out and turning, I've only had this problem at the end of Feynman's QED (which I couldn't finish). I'm going to have to give them both a second read I think. I loved E=MC2, relativity is more my cup of tea.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#35  Postby twistor59 » Jan 03, 2012 8:23 pm

mraltair wrote:Sticking to struggling to read...I have to admit Cox's book is giving me a hard time, I've slowed down to a 'page a day' pace. I also find I'm just reading rather than understanding it. It's just all those clocks spreading out and turning, I've only had this problem at the end of Feynman's QED (which I couldn't finish). I'm going to have to give them both a second read I think. I loved E=MC2, relativity is more my cup of tea.


Wasn't over keen on the clocks myself. My youngest lad requested and got a traditional alarm clock (oops nearly wrote "cock") for christmas one year - it's clockwork and got a fucking great bell on top. This just kept popping into my mind when they were on about clocks all over the place.
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#36  Postby THWOTH » Jan 04, 2012 4:32 am

THWOTH wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
The only real criticism I have of the book is the sheer number of topics that were touched upon but then deemed beyond the scope of the book some of which were quite disappointing especially as many of them were being used as exemplary


Wonder if commercial factors influenced this. Because at the end
of the day, companies want to make a profit on their investment and
quantum mechanics does not sell all that well to the masses. So there may
have been some attempt at moderation here. Now I may be completely wrong
on this but I doubt if Brian Cox had complete editorial control over content since a
decision like that would have some influence from the publishers. Stephen Hawking was
told when he was writing A Brief History Of Space And Time that every equation put in would
half the readership. He therefore ended up writing the book that he had to rather than wanted to

You know surreptitious57, every time you make a line break my screen reader says "line break." It's fucking annoying. Read your text out loud and say "line break" at every line-break to see how fucking annoying this is, and also how it renders much of what you say gibberish - which is neither fair to you nor to me.

surreptitious57

I'm very sorry I let my frustration bubble over onto the public forum like this. Please disregard the previous post, I shall do my uppermost to chill out about this from now on.

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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#37  Postby surreptitious57 » Jan 04, 2012 4:51 am

THWOTH wrote:
THWOTH wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
Wonder if commercial factors influenced this. Because at the end
of the day, companies want to make a profit on their investment and
quantum mechanics does not sell all that well to the masses. So there may
have been some attempt at moderation here. Now I may be completely wrong
on this but I doubt if Brian Cox had complete editorial control over content since a
decision like that would have some influence from the publishers. Stephen Hawking was
told when he was writing A Brief History Of Space And Time that every equation put in would
half the readership. He therefore ended up writing the book that he had to rather than wanted to

You know surreptitious57, every time you make a line break my screen reader says line break. Its fucking annoying. Read your text out loud and say line break at every line-break to see how fucking annoying this is, and also how it renders much of what you say gibberish - which is neither fair to you nor to me

surreptitious57

Im very sorry I let my frustration bubble over onto the public forum like this. Please disregard the previous post I shall do my uppermost to chill out about this from now on


No need to apologise THWOTH as your
frustration was perfectly legitimate in the
circumstances. Any time you feel like letting rip
do so. I will not hold it against you. But thanks anyway
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#38  Postby Animavore » Jan 05, 2012 6:18 pm

The library just text me to say this book is in for me :yay:
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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#39  Postby Animavore » Jan 07, 2012 11:49 am

Just collected the book but my library borrower's info says I cant renew my loan in three weeks as it's reserved for another member. Looks like I'm going to have to read a book under duress for once instead of procrastinating and renewing my loan up to three times 'til I finally get around to reading it.

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Re: Brian Cox's new book

#40  Postby twistor59 » Jan 07, 2012 1:26 pm

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