Tony blair???

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/297090-1

I guess people have already seen this but tony? lol

Poor ol' Tony never stood a chance

I saw kitchens get beat couple of times. when speaking to marxists.

Blair: "We should all ove each other, do unto others..." um...Iraq?

LMAO - blair doesn't have any argument, he's totally blown away

cavarka9 wrote:I saw kitchens get beat couple of times. when speaking to marxists.

What did you say to them that made them so angry as to trash the place?

hitchens, not kitchens!.

hitchens got beat by marxist and others because he couldnt divert them by attacking religion, they reply with "we too are atheists, so could we get back to the point, why do you support Iraq war?".

I thought Hitchens was a Marxist.

the PC apeman wrote:I thought Hitchens was a Marxist.

The wiki article on him quotes him as describing himself as a conservative Marxist but definitely not a socialist. I think by socialist he is referring to modern solicialist.

Ah, finally! When the debate first happened, I couldn't find a free full recording of it anywhere.

Invictus_88 wrote:Ah, finally! When the debate first happened, I couldn't find a free full recording of it anywhere.

I just saw the opening statements. As a deist (small d), I personally accept the probability that there is a deity, but I do not subscribe exclusively to any one religion. In viewing the opening statements, I feel that Hitchens does much better in arguing the atheist case than Blair does the theist one. So far, Hitchens is winning hands down. Modesty aside, I could argue the theist case far better -- and more honestly -- than Blair with one hand tied behind my back. So far, in the opening statements, Hitchens blows Blair out of the water.

One thing that Blair does that is particularly dishonest and in fact hateful -- and others on his side have argued the same -- is to bring up the tired old accusation that Nazism was an atheist regime. This is bullshit. Hitlerism was revived paganism of a sort, though with a nod to Jesus, but not in the context of traditional Christian orthodoxy. Unfortunately, no matter how often readers like me and (I'm sure) others on this board repeat that Hitlerism and atheism have nothing to do with each other, ignoramuses like Blair will continue to peddle this lie, either out of laziness or out of something far worse. Anyone who's going to argue his case in public owes at least enough respect to his audience to carefully double-check everything he will say. Blair came out with this blatantly unresearched piece of urban legend crap in his opening written statement. He had plenty of time to vet his remarks. He obviously didn't do that, or chose to recklessly disregard facts altogether. He's lost my respect right out of the box. I don't see why I should watch a two-hour debate when one of the debaters insults the audience by offering half-baked remarks that show not a scintilla of self-respecting historical rigor. No thanks.

Stein

P.S.: Oh, and by the way .............. this YouTube video is B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_iNCGH9kY

Animavore wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:I saw kitchens get beat couple of times. when speaking to marxists.

What did you say to them that made them so angry as to trash the place?

They made a meal of him!

GakuseiDon wrote:

Animavore wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:I saw kitchens get beat couple of times. when speaking to marxists.

What did you say to them that made them so angry as to trash the place?

They made a meal of him!

You opinion of what happened when talking to Marxists is not particularly relevant, when considering his consistent wiping of the floor with any christians who incautiously go his way. Blair came out looking like a wimpish schoolboy to whom Hitchens delivered his arse in a hat.