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18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#1  Postby Animavore » Apr 18, 2013 9:57 am

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/04/15/1 ... bout-games

:lol: (love no.1)

I'd like to add - Why it's not just a game!
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#2  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 18, 2013 10:17 am

I wonder how many people will think that smiley face is the one from Minesweeper?
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#3  Postby Thommo » Apr 18, 2013 10:20 am

I play a lot of games and almost none of those made sense to me :?
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#4  Postby Animavore » Apr 18, 2013 10:21 am

I didn't realise the upside-down PS was rampant, I thought it was just me :lol:
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#5  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 18, 2013 10:28 am

Animavore wrote:I didn't realise the upside-down PS was rampant, I thought it was just me :lol:


I too had to flip my PS1 by the end, my current one does not suffer from that problem.

I don't understand wrapping the towel around the 360 one, the red ring problem was caused by heat so wrapping it up seems rather stupid. Unless it is damp or something? Still blocking the fans from getting the heat out doesn't seem like the best way to stop the problem and keeping the heat in wouldn't fix it, at least not for good.
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#6  Postby Matt_B » Apr 18, 2013 10:54 am

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Animavore wrote:I didn't realise the upside-down PS was rampant, I thought it was just me :lol:


I too had to flip my PS1 by the end, my current one does not suffer from that problem.

I don't understand wrapping the towel around the 360 one, the red ring problem was caused by heat so wrapping it up seems rather stupid. Unless it is damp or something? Still blocking the fans from getting the heat out doesn't seem like the best way to stop the problem and keeping the heat in wouldn't fix it, at least not for good.


The original theory behind it was that running hot over a long period of time caused the solder to crack resulting in loose connections. This could potentially be fixed by a short blast of intense heat which would melt the solder allowing it to flow back into place, hence the towel trick.

Of course this was always going to be a bit of a long shot, but there were a lot of broken 360s out there, and I'm sure that it worked for more than a few of them.
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#7  Postby Animavore » Apr 18, 2013 10:55 am

Much like Uri Geller's watch stopping trick. It's complete bunk.
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#8  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 18, 2013 11:21 am

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DarthHelmet86 wrote:
Animavore wrote:I didn't realise the upside-down PS was rampant, I thought it was just me :lol:


I too had to flip my PS1 by the end, my current one does not suffer from that problem.

I don't understand wrapping the towel around the 360 one, the red ring problem was caused by heat so wrapping it up seems rather stupid. Unless it is damp or something? Still blocking the fans from getting the heat out doesn't seem like the best way to stop the problem and keeping the heat in wouldn't fix it, at least not for good.


The original theory behind it was that running hot over a long period of time caused the solder to crack resulting in loose connections. This could potentially be fixed by a short blast of intense heat which would melt the solder allowing it to flow back into place, hence the towel trick.

Of course this was always going to be a bit of a long shot, but there were a lot of broken 360s out there, and I'm sure that it worked for more than a few of them.


I sure do know about the broken 360's I had two of them and in both cases (one of which was over 3 years from purchase) I took them back to the store where I got them and they replaced them. The problem with the melting the solder trick is that eventually it will fail again, seems a very desperate thing to do doubly so when, here at least, a lot of stores quickly accepted the fault and replaced consoles and I don't think Microsoft was too far behind in offering free repairs if you paid to send it to them (which is what the stores here did, they replaced the console sent the broken one to get repaired then resold it).

Still knowing of people claiming to be able to fix the red ring fault by remelting the solder I never heard of doing it by wrapping a towel around the console. I heard about people opening their consoles and doing the melting with soldering irons.
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#9  Postby Matt_B » Apr 18, 2013 11:33 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Still knowing of people claiming to be able to fix the red ring fault by remelting the solder I never heard of doing it by wrapping a towel around the console. I heard about people opening their consoles and doing the melting with soldering irons.


On the whole, your chances of fixing it with just a soldering iron would be pretty slim too. It's a job that really needs a professional re-flow station, and even then there's a good chance of the RROD re-occurring as it wouldn't change the underlying problem that caused the machines to overheat.

The proper fix, which you'd have got with an official repair, was to swap out the motherboard for a re-designed one that ran cooler.
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#10  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 18, 2013 11:38 am

Matt_B wrote:On the whole, your chances of fixing it with just a soldering iron would be pretty slim too. It's a job that really needs a professional re-flow station, and even then there's a good chance of the RROD re-occurring as it wouldn't change the underlying problem that caused the machines to overheat.

The proper fix, which you'd have got with an official repair, was to swap out the motherboard for a re-designed one that ran cooler.


Indeed I never heard of anyone keeping their 360 fixed by using a soldering iron, just people who tried it. I am just glad I kept the receipts for mine, that way I didn't pay a cent and got them replaced the day after they failed.
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#11  Postby Wiðercora » Apr 18, 2013 4:34 pm

Yesss! Stalin Versus Martians! I have that game.
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#12  Postby MrFungus420 » Apr 21, 2013 8:23 am

I have a problem with #9.

Reading instruction manuals? I thought this was about gamers...
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#13  Postby Jumbo » Apr 21, 2013 10:44 am

Depends on the game/gamers

Microprose games were always a treat as they not only included instructions but the manual went over the history of the aircraft involved in the game and contained essays on the historical context of the conflicts involved. Then there weere the sims they made that were pretty complex requiring huge and detailed manuals with tutorials and reference material. The first Falcon 4.0 copies came with a ring binder manual to help keep it open while studying. It was a shade over 700 pages long.
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#14  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 21, 2013 11:06 am

I know a few people who think it was all better in the old days with manuals, and in some cases they are right. The fluff some games came with was epic but some games still come with all that and more. Most of the time though they are just remembering back to the one time they cracked the manual while installing the game or to games that had to cram the manual full with the story or the game wouldn't fit on your HDD.
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#15  Postby Wiðercora » Apr 21, 2013 11:19 am

Manual? I don't need no stinking manual!
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Re: 18 Things Non-Gamers Will Never Understand About Games.

#16  Postby Jumbo » Apr 21, 2013 2:18 pm

the game wouldn't fit on your HDD.

Half of the best Microprose and other games of that era games had a loading screen asking you to 'Insert disk 2 to continue"

I felt like i had a monster Amiga when i got a hard drive with 80 meg of space. What the heck was i going to fill it with......well 12 disks worth of Monkey island for a start!
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#17  Postby Animavore » Apr 21, 2013 8:27 pm

MrFungus420 wrote:I have a problem with #9.

Reading instruction manuals? I thought this was about gamers...


I always read the instruction manual on the way home on the bus.
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#18  Postby SafeAsMilk » Apr 21, 2013 9:48 pm

#9, all the way. Still got all my old manuals.
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#19  Postby paret0 » Apr 21, 2013 10:14 pm

#1 thing non-gamers understand, that gamers dont: Gaming is entertainment, and gamers are entertainment consumers.

Have trouble communicating with non-gamers (whatever those are, parents maybe?)? Just insert "Entertainment consumer" in place of "Gamer" in your conversations.
It will give your remarks the validity and weight they hold with non-gamers, and you will understand better how you are heard by them.
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#20  Postby Sityl » Apr 21, 2013 10:40 pm

MrFungus420 wrote:I have a problem with #9.

Reading instruction manuals? I thought this was about gamers...


It probably refers to that type of game which was very common in early gaming where almost of all of the exposition regarding plot was laid out in the manual, and very little plot information is actually in the game.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... nTheManual
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