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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#31  Postby natselrox » Feb 28, 2010 8:39 pm

Just to remind ourselves, there are bigger and better things at stake here.
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Re: From the horses mouth; Collapse of the Richard Dawkins Forum

#32  Postby pensioner » Feb 28, 2010 8:39 pm

Without us peasants shouting and screaming we would never of got that apology. What about all the posts that we have lost? What about some of the members of the forum who have disappeared? How about making a statement to the press to say you were wrong when they quoted you. I will not hold my breath.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#33  Postby jerome » Feb 28, 2010 8:40 pm

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jerome wrote:I have commented to say I accept the apology, but to ask for the restoration of the deleted posts. I can do nothing else: it's a religious duty to me to forgive. Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

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Atheists can forgive too. ;)


I know, I know, I'm not scoring points, I'm joking! :mrgreen:
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#34  Postby Darkchilde » Feb 28, 2010 8:41 pm

I accept the apology by Prof. Dawkins.

I don't know whether I'll contribute to the new discussion area; it seems to me that it will more be like the front page, just extending the writing of articles to various users. I prefer the forum setting, always have; I don't think I've ever even written a comment on the front page anyway.
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Re: From the horses mouth; Collapse of the Richard Dawkins Forum

#35  Postby jerome » Feb 28, 2010 8:41 pm

Exactly Pensioner. Still, as I keep saying, I did not have high expectations of RD, so any thing he does for the reparation is a unexpected and welcome to me!

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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#36  Postby Crocodile Gandhi » Feb 28, 2010 8:41 pm

starr wrote:
jerome wrote:I have commented to say I accept the apology, but to ask for the restoration of the deleted posts. I can do nothing else: it's a religious duty to me to forgive. Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

j x


Atheists can forgive too. ;)


Indeed. I even forgave my neighbour for yelling at me after I had eaten her baby.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#37  Postby Logicel » Feb 28, 2010 8:42 pm

Apology accepted.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#38  Postby MedGen » Feb 28, 2010 8:42 pm

natselrox wrote:Just to remind ourselves, there are bigger and better things at stake here.


But I don't have a soul! :grin:

Oh and dropping in Batman quotes - not cool nats. ;)
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#39  Postby virphen » Feb 28, 2010 8:42 pm

jerome wrote:I have commented to say I accept the apology, but to ask for the restoration of the deleted posts. I can do nothing else: it's a religious duty to me to forgive. Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

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I beat you to making the point on the deleted posts, I hope it doesn't get lost in the flood of "yay, we're all friends again" posts (as much as I like that sentiment).

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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#40  Postby alienpresence » Feb 28, 2010 8:42 pm

Tbickle wrote:It's a good start. I'm more excited about this new option though. I give him credit for taking full responsibility and archiving the old one, but his continued defense of Josh is annoying. I think one more apology is needed and it's not from RD.


He says he'll archive afterall his support base is slipping. He'd promise the moon if he you ask him right now. :roll:
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#41  Postby jerome » Feb 28, 2010 8:43 pm

Crocodile Gandhi wrote:
starr wrote:
jerome wrote:I have commented to say I accept the apology, but to ask for the restoration of the deleted posts. I can do nothing else: it's a religious duty to me to forgive. Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

j x


Atheists can forgive too. ;)


Indeed. I even forgave my neighbour for yelling at me after I had eaten her baby.



Did you not offer to share with her? How selfish to eat a whole baby on your own! :)

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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#42  Postby Katherine » Feb 28, 2010 8:44 pm

jerome wrote:Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

j x

Well, there's still time during this Lenten period to give up God temporarily and see if you like it.... :mrgreen:
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#43  Postby Peter Harrison » Feb 28, 2010 8:44 pm

How about an apology from the site techs for treating everyone like crap and ignoring issues the mods brought up that clearly shouldn't have been ignored?

I'm highly skeptical about the archived forum being searchable. We've asked for 8 months to get search working again and they didn't do it. Here's hoping though.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#44  Postby natselrox » Feb 28, 2010 8:45 pm

MedGen wrote:
natselrox wrote:Just to remind ourselves, there are bigger and better things at stake here.


But I don't have a soul! :grin:

Oh and dropping in Batman quotes - not cool nats. ;)


:oops: :lol: (Just joshing around!)
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#45  Postby Crocodile Gandhi » Feb 28, 2010 8:45 pm

jerome wrote:
Crocodile Gandhi wrote:
starr wrote:
jerome wrote:I have commented to say I accept the apology, but to ask for the restoration of the deleted posts. I can do nothing else: it's a religious duty to me to forgive. Sometimes I really wish I was an atheist...! :grin:

j x


Atheists can forgive too. ;)


Indeed. I even forgave my neighbour for yelling at me after I had eaten her baby.



Did you not offer to share with her? How selfish to eat a whole bay on your own! :)

j x


I asked, but she was too busy screaming. Ungrateful slag.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#46  Postby jerome » Feb 28, 2010 8:47 pm

It's nice to see InYourFaceNewYorker reminding us she stood loyally by RD throughout this. Us despicable bastard should view her video and hang our heads in shame! :)
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#47  Postby obscured by clouds » Feb 28, 2010 8:48 pm

'If all the grievances that stand between Elves and Dwarves are to be brought up here, we may as well abandon this Council.'
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#48  Postby Pauline » Feb 28, 2010 8:48 pm

Sounds like his new forum will still be approved threads only - relating to reason and science - which is fair enough. His forum bares his name after all - so he decides what goes there.

But I think the community will be totally lost.

For me I prefer a community with free uncensored discussion - be it serious or frivolous. Decided by the community.

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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#49  Postby alienpresence » Feb 28, 2010 8:50 pm

The most likely reason RDF archives became unsearchable is that posts were being deleted, have been deleted, to save room or something previously. I hope I'm wrong. Some posts, perhaps quite a number, may have disappeared forever.
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Re: An Apology by Richard Dawkins

#50  Postby Shaker » Feb 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Our old forum contained many excellent discussions on reason and science and related topics, and we certainly don’t want to lose the facility for those. However, it also contained some threads that were potentially harmful to the website’s (and therefore the Foundation’s) reputation. Our goal is to retain the valuable aspects of the old forum, the parts that actively promote the causes for which the website was set up; whilst losing those parts that do not.

This is essentially what led to the Great Purge of '08, and I still find it depressing - patronising and puritanical, and with an eye not on a community of friends but reputation. Sure, there's no problem with a site having an overall ethos and specific goals, but surely to goodness it doesn't have to revolve around that every single second of every single day, without a separate corner for people to chat in about whatever nonsense they like?

If you don't want that sort of thing, I'd suggest you don't have a 'General discussion' or an 'Off-topic' section and then act like a petulant child when people take those titles at face value and discuss generally and chat about off topic things. It rankled then and it rankles now.

Pauline nailed it:
Pauline wrote:For me I prefer a community with free uncensored discussion - be it serious or frivolous. Decided by the community.
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