[quote="Crocodile Gandhi";p="2616971"]TMO decisions are consistently terrible. Even after looking at it from 7 angles 30 times they still make very bad decisions. It has reduced the number of referee howlers, but it's far from perfect.[/quote]
It will improve and is getting better. Maybe figure skaters could be judged by computers.
Figure skating et al at the Olympics
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Closing ceremonies kinda neat. 
Bit too much Boy Band 
tho the lightshow is good.
Bet thos LED jackets will be popular
Bit too much Boy Band tho the lightshow is good.Bet thos LED jackets will be popular
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Do you believe in miracles? Not quite, Germany, but very close.
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Re: Figure skating et al at the Olympics
[quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616960"][quote="I'm With Stupid";p="2616889"][quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616868"]Judges decide ok? Subjective or are you incapable of discerning between subjective and objective?[/quote]
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?
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Re: Figure skating et al at the Olympics
[quote="I'm With Stupid";p="2617013"][quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616960"][quote="I'm With Stupid";p="2616889"][quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616868"]Judges decide ok? Subjective or are you incapable of discerning between subjective and objective?[/quote]
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.
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Re: Figure skating et al at the Olympics
[quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2617022"][quote="I'm With Stupid";p="2617013"][quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616960"][quote="I'm With Stupid";p="2616889"]
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.[/quote]
The highest win? Haha, as if anyone gives a shit about that. How do you compare beating Saudi Arabia 8-0 and beating Brazil 1-0? The answer is you don't, because football is decided on the day based on how you perform in relation to your opponents, just like figure skating. You can't automatically win a football tournament just by getting a "world record" win.
As for the track record, also irrelevant outside of a single competition, because the track is re-iced every winter, and the conditions of the track cannot be compared from one year to another. Some years it will be faster and some years slower. While there is obviously a large amount of similarities, the skeleton bob co-commentator on the BBC (an ex-Olympic champion) said that you effectively have to relearn the track every year. Hence why it's actually quite hard to find all of the track records for most of the Olympic bobsleigh tracks for all of the events. They're not worth keeping.
Perhaps you're incapable of discerning between 'purely' and 'somewhat.' If there are objective measures the judges are required to stick to, then it can't be purely subjective. If everyone is judged on the same number of specified elements, with clear rules for scoring, then it's definitely not purely subjective. 4 spins beats 3 spins is pretty objective. Completing an element cleanly vs. completing an element while stumbling is pretty objective. Everyone having to do 10 elements is pretty objective. The reason that people think it's "purely subjective" is because they don't understand the judging, not because there aren't any objective measures. It's like me not knowing the offside rule in football and complaining that they're just making it up when my team gets a goal disallowed.[/quote]
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.[/quote]
The highest win? Haha, as if anyone gives a shit about that. How do you compare beating Saudi Arabia 8-0 and beating Brazil 1-0? The answer is you don't, because football is decided on the day based on how you perform in relation to your opponents, just like figure skating. You can't automatically win a football tournament just by getting a "world record" win.
As for the track record, also irrelevant outside of a single competition, because the track is re-iced every winter, and the conditions of the track cannot be compared from one year to another. Some years it will be faster and some years slower. While there is obviously a large amount of similarities, the skeleton bob co-commentator on the BBC (an ex-Olympic champion) said that you effectively have to relearn the track every year. Hence why it's actually quite hard to find all of the track records for most of the Olympic bobsleigh tracks for all of the events. They're not worth keeping.
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Re: Figure skating et al at the Olympics
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What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.[/quote]
The highest win? Haha, as if anyone gives a shit about that. How do you compare beating Saudi Arabia 8-0 and beating Brazil 1-0? The answer is you don't, because football is decided on the day based on how you perform in relation to your opponents, just like figure skating. You can't automatically win a football tournament just by getting a "world record" win.
As for the track record, also irrelevant outside of a single competition, because the track is re-iced every winter, and the conditions of the track cannot be compared from one year to another. Some years it will be faster and some years slower. While there is obviously a large amount of similarities, the skeleton bob co-commentator on the BBC (an ex-Olympic champion) said that you effectively have to relearn the track every year. Hence why it's actually quite hard to find all of the track records for most of the Olympic bobsleigh tracks for all of the events. They're not worth keeping.[/quote]
But they are not subjective.
What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
What's the Olympic record for football? What's the Olympic record for bobsleigh?[/quote]
The highest win. Every track has a track record.[/quote]
The highest win? Haha, as if anyone gives a shit about that. How do you compare beating Saudi Arabia 8-0 and beating Brazil 1-0? The answer is you don't, because football is decided on the day based on how you perform in relation to your opponents, just like figure skating. You can't automatically win a football tournament just by getting a "world record" win.
As for the track record, also irrelevant outside of a single competition, because the track is re-iced every winter, and the conditions of the track cannot be compared from one year to another. Some years it will be faster and some years slower. While there is obviously a large amount of similarities, the skeleton bob co-commentator on the BBC (an ex-Olympic champion) said that you effectively have to relearn the track every year. Hence why it's actually quite hard to find all of the track records for most of the Olympic bobsleigh tracks for all of the events. They're not worth keeping.[/quote]
But they are not subjective.
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Re: Figure skating et al at the Olympics
[quote="Scot Dutchy";p="2616960"]What is the Olympic record for pairs figure skating.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... r_Olympics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... r_Olympics
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