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Flectere si nequeo Superos, Acheronta movebo - if I can't bend ones above , I shall move internal regions (= If I can't move heaven, I shall raise hell)
- Virgil, Aeneid, VII
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Ad generum Cereris sine caede et vulnere pauci,
Descendunt reges, et sicca morte tyranni.


For few usurpers to the shades descend
By a dry death, or with a quiet end.
- Juvenalis, Satirae
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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[...]
perfer et obdura! dolor hic tibi proderit olim;
[...]
eng. Bear (it) and endure! This pain (that you now suffer) shall one day be beneficial to you;
- Ovid Amores III
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Fortuna nunquam sistit in eodem statu :
Semper movetur ; variat et mutat vices,
Et summa in imum vertit ac versa erigit.


Fortune never stays in the same state
it is always turning, always changing
it throws down the prosperuos and raises the humble

-Ausonius, Epigrammata
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Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Incipe quicquid agas : pro toto est prima operis pars.
Set about whatever you intend to do : first part of the task is good as the whole
- Ausonius, Idylla XII
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Or, modernised:

The job that's never started is the one that takes longest. (Sam Gamgee's Gaffer)
How extremely stupid not to have thought of that - T.H. Huxley
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Dum vires annique sinunt, tolerate labores:
Iam veniet tacito curva senecta pede.

- Ovid, Ars Amatoria II.1

Work while your strength and years permit you ;
crooked age will by-and-by come upon you with silent foot
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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leve fit, quod bene fertur, onus. (A burthen cheerfully borne becomes light)
- Ovid, Amores I

In other words:
"All things are easy that are done willingly."
"He never did a good day's work who went gnimblingly about it"
" Not a long day, but a good heart, rids work."

Ovid's words were also inspiration for Shakespeare "No profit grows where is no pleasure ta'en" (The Taiming of the Shrew Act 1, Scene 1)
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Dum Fata sinunt vivite Iaeti. [As long as the Fates permit, live cheerfully.]
- Seneca
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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[quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784432"][quote="Evolving";p="2784430"]Don't forget the works of Jekeia Rolingus: Expecto patronum, Expelliarmus, Wingardium leviosa and others.[/quote]
:rofl:
Ms Rollings is a vivid example that an author should at least do some minimal effort spent on linguistic research :lol:

Exspecto patronum is a dangerous spell as a in ancient Rome patronus also had connotation to pimp or sugar daddy :grin:[/quote]

I was recently reading a book on translation and they mentioned that when Ms. Rollings works were translated into Hindi, the translator based the spell words on Sanskrit as that language has a similar status in India to Latin in Europe. (Oft quoted, seldom read as I once heard it expressed!)

I was reading another book on the history of maps and one of the things that tickled my funny bone was the way that many medieval scholars had a Latinate version of their name. You would get some scholar from the depths of the Black Forest whose name was something like Mungbert Gruberheim but his published works were under some much more august-sounding name like Gnosticus Splendifodorus. :lol:

I'll showcase my tiny bit of Latin here:

Oderint Dum Metuant
Let them hate, as long as they fear.

Foreign policy and PR was a bit different in those days :whistle:

I can't really claim to have any proficiency in Latin, but I do like Dryden's poem in imitation of Horace.

Happy the man, and happy he alone,
He who can call today his own:
He who, secure within, can say,
Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today.
Be fair or foul or rain or shine
The joys I have possessed, in spite of fate, are mine.
Not Heaven itself upon the past has power,
But what has been, has been, and I have had my hour.


Google tells me that the original is:

ille potens sui
laetusque deget, cui licet in diem
dixisse "vixi: cras vel atra
nube polum Pater occupato

vel sole puro; non tamen irritum,
quodcumque retro est, efficiet neque
diffinget infectumque reddet,
quod fugiens semel hora vexit.
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the translator based the spell words on Sanskrit as that language has a similar status in India to Latin in Europe.
Also works well in Thai as part of the language is derived from Sanskrit, part from Pali, and part from local and invasive languages. Strangely similar in that respect to English (and many other languages) with Latin, Germanic, and Brythonic, Frisian etc.
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[quote="don't get me started";p="2784720"]

I can't really claim to have any proficiency in Latin, but I do like Dryden's poem in imitation of Horace.

Happy the man, and happy he alone,
He who can call today his own:
He who, secure within, can say,
Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today.
Be fair or foul or rain or shine
The joys I have possessed, in spite of fate, are mine.
Not Heaven itself upon the past has power,
But what has been, has been, and I have had my hour.


Google tells me that the original is:

ille potens sui
laetusque deget, cui licet in diem
dixisse "vixi: cras vel atra
nube polum Pater occupato

vel sole puro; non tamen irritum,
quodcumque retro est, efficiet neque
diffinget infectumque reddet,
quod fugiens semel hora vexit.[/quote]

Horace Ode's , Book III, Carmen 29, 41-48

ille potens sui
laetusque deget, cui licet in diem
dixisse 'vixi'. cras vel atra
nube polum pater occupato
vel sole puro; non tamen irritum
quodcumque retro est efficiet neque
diffinget infectumque reddet
quod fugiens semel hora vexit.


He will live as master to himself in happines, who from day to day will be able to say "I have lived: tomorrow let father (Jupiter) cover the sky with dark cloud or shining sun; still he will not make naught of all that is behind , nor will he cancel or undo what the fleeting hour has already brought"

Amice, if you have time and interest, I could advise you to read translations of Horace works (even Seneca and Marcus Aurelius);
these guys wrote about inner peace, golden mean, precepts for happy life away from greed, rat race etc.
Basically stoicism and moderate epicureism - "inconveniences and burdens of life are endured and dealt with more easily if you approch them with cheerful countenance" :)
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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[quote="don't get me started";p="2784720"][quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784432"][quote="Evolving";p="2784430"]Don't forget the works of Jekeia Rolingus: Expecto patronum, Expelliarmus, Wingardium leviosa and others.[/quote]
:rofl:
Ms Rollings is a vivid example that an author should at least do some minimal effort spent on linguistic research :lol:

Exspecto patronum is a dangerous spell as a in ancient Rome patronus also had connotation to pimp or sugar daddy :grin:[/quote]

I was recently reading a book on translation and they mentioned that when Ms. Rollings works were translated into Hindi, the translator based the spell words on Sanskrit as that language has a similar status in India to Latin in Europe. (Oft quoted, seldom read as I once heard it expressed!)

I was reading another book on the history of maps and one of the things that tickled my funny bone was the way that many medieval scholars had a Latinate version of their name. You would get some scholar from the depths of the Black Forest whose name was something like Mungbert Gruberheim but his published works were under some much more august-sounding name like Gnosticus Splendifodorus. :lol:

I'll showcase my tiny bit of Latin here:

Oderint Dum Metuant
Let them hate, as long as they fear.

Foreign policy and PR was a bit different in those days :whistle:

I can't really claim to have any proficiency in Latin, but I do like Dryden's poem in imitation of Horace.

Happy the man, and happy he alone,
He who can call today his own:
He who, secure within, can say,
Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today.
Be fair or foul or rain or shine
The joys I have possessed, in spite of fate, are mine.
Not Heaven itself upon the past has power,
But what has been, has been, and I have had my hour.


Google tells me that the original is:

ille potens sui
laetusque deget, cui licet in diem
dixisse "vixi: cras vel atra
nube polum Pater occupato

vel sole puro; non tamen irritum,
quodcumque retro est, efficiet neque
diffinget infectumque reddet,
quod fugiens semel hora vexit.[/quote]
Famous example: Gheert Cremer, cartographer, aka Gerardus Mercator. As in Mercator projection. He simply translated his name.
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