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Star Wars: The Force Awakens - rating

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Enjoyed it
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Overhyped but worth seeing
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Wait for the streaming
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Go see The Martian instead ..too dated...too contrived
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[quote="quisquose";p="2352354"][quote="Rachel Bronwyn";p="2349445"]I knew ahead of time who the mind controlled stormtrooper was and had a chuckle.[/quote]
All we knew was that he played a stormtrooper, so assumed we wouldn't be able to spot him. As soon as the stormtrooper utters his first word the whole family looks across at each other and chuckles.[/quote]

That's funny!
A good idea to tell people that he plays a stormtrooper but not which one. The best thing about The Man From Uncle was knowing, and then spotting, that David Beckham was in it. In both cases if you didn't know you wouldn't notice.
I..... didn't know he was in The Man From Uncle. Going to have to research it with that in mind.
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Attack of the moans: George Lucas hits out at 'retro' Star Wars: The Force Awakens


Film-maker defends his six Star Wars movies, saying he constantly tried to innovate ‘with different planets, different spaceships’

Star Wars creator George Lucas has criticised the “retro” tone of new episode The Force Awakens, with which he had no creative involvement.

Speaking to US television talk-show host and journalist Charlie Rose, Lucas quipped that he had sold his “kids … to the white slavers that take these things”.
[url=http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/de ... ce-awakens]More...[/ur]
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I think I wasn't so bothered by lack of explanation of the politics due to being sort of well versed in the EU and being annoyed by "as you know" tropes.
The new canon books explain the current politics of the galaxy.
There are also a fair number of scenes cut out, probably to make room for nostalgic fan service.
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[quote="KeenIdiot";p="2352497"]I think I wasn't so bothered by lack of explanation of the politics due to being sort of well versed in the EU and being annoyed by "as you know" tropes.
The new canon books explain the current politics of the galaxy. [/quote]
Which is rubbish imo. I should not be required to read a book to understand something as basic as the political background of the conflict of a film. Nuances yes, basics no.
And even then, if they want us to read such books, they should advertise their films as such.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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I have this dreadful thought that at the end of Star Wars IX: The Return Of The Resistance we will see Rey look upon the ghostly smiling figures of Kylo Ren (who turns out to be her brother), Solo and Skywalker.
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[quote="Thomas Eshuis";p="2352499"][quote="KeenIdiot";p="2352497"]I think I wasn't so bothered by lack of explanation of the politics due to being sort of well versed in the EU and being annoyed by "as you know" tropes.
The new canon books explain the current politics of the galaxy. [/quote]
Which is rubbish imo. I should not be required to read a book to understand something as basic as the political background of the conflict of a film. Nuances yes, basics no.
And even then, if they want us to read such books, they should advertise their films as such.[/quote]
Yeah.
Aloarently the Empire is based out of the Oouter Rim territories and most of the Galaxy is under control of the New Republic now. The seat of the New republic shifts to the planet of the current head of the senate.
The New Republic is basically ignoring the First Order since they only control the fringes of the galaxy, which is how they were able to build their superweapon.
The Resistance are those who still see the First Order as a threat, which is why they are such a small group.
That could have been handled by a few lines in the film, and should have been. The scene at the Resistance Base would have been good.
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[quote="KeenIdiot";p="2352611"][quote="Thomas Eshuis";p="2352499"][quote="KeenIdiot";p="2352497"]I think I wasn't so bothered by lack of explanation of the politics due to being sort of well versed in the EU and being annoyed by "as you know" tropes.
The new canon books explain the current politics of the galaxy. [/quote]
Which is rubbish imo. I should not be required to read a book to understand something as basic as the political background of the conflict of a film. Nuances yes, basics no.
And even then, if they want us to read such books, they should advertise their films as such.[/quote]
Yeah.
Aloarently the Empire is based out of the Oouter Rim territories and most of the Galaxy is under control of the New Republic now. The seat of the New republic shifts to the planet of the current head of the senate.
The New Republic is basically ignoring the First Order since they only control the fringes of the galaxy, which is how they were able to build their superweapon.
The Resistance are those who still see the First Order as a threat, which is why they are such a small group.
That could have been handled by a few lines in the film, and should have been. The scene at the Resistance Base would have been good.[/quote]
This still doesn't make sense, as I mentioned before, it's less than a generation ago that the Republic had to fight for survival against the Empire. And now, when Empire 2.0 shows up, they're suddenly amnesiac and think it'll all go away by itself?
Also if the First Order is really in the Outer Rim, that makes the super death star even more ludicrous, firing five beams halfway across the galaxy that then manage to split into multiple beams that somehow all manage to hit their seperate targets perfectly.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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To your first point, they didnt show up but the remaining forces were driven out there, and finally signed a truce.
As for the weapon, don't remember exactly but there was something about aiming through hyperspace. I don't know, I really dont put a lot of scientific criticism to Star Wars.
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I have just left the cinema. I enjoyed the movie a lot, but wasn't too pleased when it went all Harry Potter.. anyone else get this feeling?
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[quote="Ironclad";p="2352951"]I have just left the cinema. I enjoyed the movie a lot, but wasn't too pleased when it went all Harry Potter.. anyone else get this feeling?[/quote]
:nod:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?
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I imagine JJ has plans to evolve Darth Potter. Hugely entertaining all the same.
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[quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2352976"]Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?[/quote]

I'm not that clued up on the Harry Potter movies either, but when thingy took his mask off he became a stroppy kid. Like a cross between the blonde bad boy and the long and dark haired teacher, from the HP movies. I grimaced.
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:rofl:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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[quote="Ironclad";p="2352978"][quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2352976"]Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?[/quote]

I'm not that clued up on the Harry Potter movies either, but when thingy took his mask off he became a stroppy kid. Like a cross between the blonde bad boy and the long and dark haired teacher, from the HP movies. I grimaced.[/quote]
He did seem to be much less of a badass when the mask came off.
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They did really waste Max von Sydow.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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[quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2353045"][quote="Ironclad";p="2352978"][quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2352976"]Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?[/quote]

I'm not that clued up on the Harry Potter movies either, but when thingy took his mask off he became a stroppy kid. Like a cross between the blonde bad boy and the long and dark haired teacher, from the HP movies. I grimaced.[/quote]
He did seem to be much less of a badass when the mask came off.[/quote]
It did make him far more comprehensible though.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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[quote="Thomas Eshuis";p="2353047"]They did really waste Max von Sydow.[/quote]
The whole time, I could only hear him saying his awesome lines from Conan The Barbarian.
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[quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2353045"][quote="Ironclad";p="2352978"][quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2352976"]Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?[/quote]

I'm not that clued up on the Harry Potter movies either, but when thingy took his mask off he became a stroppy kid. Like a cross between the blonde bad boy and the long and dark haired teacher, from the HP movies. I grimaced.[/quote]
He did seem to be much less of a badass when the mask came off.[/quote]
He'd already had plenty of tantrums, smashing things with his lightsaber for no reason.
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[quote="minininja";p="2353085"][quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2353045"][quote="Ironclad";p="2352978"][quote="SafeAsMilk";p="2352976"]Haven't really watched any of the Harry Potter films, what do you mean?[/quote]

I'm not that clued up on the Harry Potter movies either, but when thingy took his mask off he became a stroppy kid. Like a cross between the blonde bad boy and the long and dark haired teacher, from the HP movies. I grimaced.[/quote]
He did seem to be much less of a badass when the mask came off.[/quote]
He'd already had plenty of tantrums, smashing things with his lightsaber for no reason.[/quote]
This is true, forgot about that.
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