LINGUA LATINA

[Marcus Hadrianus]

SICVT OMNIVM SCIENTARVM REGINA MATHEMATICA ITA OMNIVM LINGVARVM REGINA LATINA.

Galia est omnis divisa in partes tres...

[Bestiola]

ROFL Caesar would be so proud

[Marcus Hadrianus]

O tempora, o mores!

[Fredericus]

Caesar might be proud of you, but going by your signature I'm surprised you didn't pick Ovid.

Siquis in hoc artem populo non novit amandi,
     Hoc legat et lecto carmine doctus amet.
Arte citae veloque rates remoque moventur,
     Arte leves currus: arte regendus amor.
Curribus Automedon lentisque erat aptus habenis,               5
     Tiphys in Haemonia puppe magister erat:
Me Venus artificem tenero praefecit Amori;
     Tiphys et Automedon dicar Amoris ego.

[Fredericus]

o - c. sativa! intellego!

[Marcus Hadrianus]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783538"]Caesar might be proud of you, but going by your signature I'm surprised you didn't pick Ovid.

Siquis in hoc artem populo non novit amandi,
     Hoc legat et lecto carmine doctus amet.
Arte citae veloque rates remoque moventur,
     Arte leves currus: arte regendus amor.
Curribus Automedon lentisque erat aptus habenis,               5
     Tiphys in Haemonia puppe magister erat:
Me Venus artificem tenero praefecit Amori;
     Tiphys et Automedon dicar Amoris ego.[/quote]
LOL that would be way to long and spacious for a signature.

[Fredericus]

salve care amice Hadriane - Recently I came across this in a grammar: "nolam" not found in surviving classical literature"".

So how would a classicist rephrase this?

uxorem regis fortis amare nolam.

[Fredericus]

Who is your new avatar?

[Marcus Hadrianus]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783643"]Who is your new avatar?[/quote]
Lucius Annaeus Seneca (minor)

[Marcus Hadrianus]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783641"]salve care amice Hadriane - Recently I came across this in a grammar: "nolam" not found in surviving classical literature"".

So how would a classicist rephrase this?

uxorem regis fortis amare nolam.[/quote]
nolo is standard contraction of non +vis (non volo)
I am not sure what you are asking, but uxorem regis fortis amare nolam seems to me like I shall [refuse/be unwilling] to love the wife of brave king.

[Fredericus]

Apparently first person future nolam has not been come across in surviving classical literature, and I was wondering what the old Romans might have said instead of nolam. However, nolam seems to be the accepted form for I shall/will refuse etc. AFAIK nobody has come up with anything else. Enjoy your trip to The Netherlands.

Gosh - wouldn't have recognised seneca from that avatar.

[Marcus Hadrianus]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783671"]Apparently first person future nolam has not been come across in surviving classical literature, and I was wondering what the old Romans might have said instead of nolam. However, nolam seems to be the accepted form for I shall/will refuse etc. AFAIK nobody has come up with anything else. Enjoy your trip to The Netherlands.

Gosh - wouldn't have recognised seneca from that avatar.[/quote]

in triclinio coeam, in cubiculo nolam ― I meet (you) at the table but I won’t at the dormitory - apparently it can also refer to "I won't" i.e. I will not love the wife of the brave king.

something else than nolam it all depends on the whole sentence and context;
do you have the english original sentence; this way I could think of something.

[Fredericus]

There's no English sentence. Anyway, I think it all hinges on the fact that there is "no surviving" classical literature, i.e. we won't know until such literature/evidence comes to light one day which confirms that the old Romans used or didn't use "nolam". Until I read about "no surviving" literature it never occurred to me that "nolam" might be non-classical.

[Bestiola]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783694"]There's no English sentence. Anyway, I think it all hinges on the fact that there is "no surviving" classical literature, i.e. we won't know until such literature/evidence comes to light one day which confirms that the old Romans used or didn't use "nolam". Until I read about "no surviving" literature it never occurred to me that "nolam" might be non-classical.[/quote]
Quintilian has it in Institutio Oratoria when he's quoting "et oratores nonnumquam, ut Caelius ‘quadrantariam Clytaemestram’ et ‘in triclinio Coam, in cubiculo nolam’. Liber VIII, Caput VI, 52

[Marcus Hadrianus]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783671"]Apparently first person future nolam has not been come across in surviving classical literature, and I was wondering what the old Romans might have said instead of nolam. [/quote]
Amice, perhaps haud velim - I would hardly wish to

[Bestiola]

[quote="Bestiola";p="2783698"][quote="Fredericus";p="2783694"]There's no English sentence. Anyway, I think it all hinges on the fact that there is "no surviving" classical literature, i.e. we won't know until such literature/evidence comes to light one day which confirms that the old Romans used or didn't use "nolam". Until I read about "no surviving" literature it never occurred to me that "nolam" might be non-classical.[/quote]
Quintilian has it in Institutio Oratoria when he's quoting "et oratores nonnumquam, ut Caelius ‘quadrantariam Clytaemestram’ et ‘in triclinio Coam, in cubiculo nolam’. Liber VIII, Caput VI, 52[/quote]

But it should be noted it's a joke, a play on words about Clodia - Quintilian is quoting Caelius how he described Clodia as willing in the dining room but frigid in the bedroom.

[Fredericus]

[quote="Bestiola";p="2783703"][quote="Bestiola";p="2783698"][quote="Fredericus";p="2783694"]There's no English sentence. Anyway, I think it all hinges on the fact that there is "no surviving" classical literature, i.e. we won't know until such literature/evidence comes to light one day which confirms that the old Romans used or didn't use "nolam". Until I read about "no surviving" literature it never occurred to me that "nolam" might be non-classical.[/quote]
Quintilian has it in Institutio Oratoria when he's quoting "et oratores nonnumquam, ut Caelius ‘quadrantariam Clytaemestram’ et ‘in triclinio Coam, in cubiculo nolam’. Liber VIII, Caput VI, 52[/quote]

But it should be noted it's a joke, a play on words about Clodia - Quintilian is quoting Caelius how he described Clodia as willing in the dining room but frigid in the bedroom.[/quote]

Yes, clever play on words! Thanks!

[Bestiola]

[quote="Fredericus";p="2783709"][quote="Bestiola";p="2783703"][quote="Bestiola";p="2783698"][quote="Fredericus";p="2783694"]There's no English sentence. Anyway, I think it all hinges on the fact that there is "no surviving" classical literature, i.e. we won't know until such literature/evidence comes to light one day which confirms that the old Romans used or didn't use "nolam". Until I read about "no surviving" literature it never occurred to me that "nolam" might be non-classical.[/quote]
Quintilian has it in Institutio Oratoria when he's quoting "et oratores nonnumquam, ut Caelius ‘quadrantariam Clytaemestram’ et ‘in triclinio Coam, in cubiculo nolam’. Liber VIII, Caput VI, 52[/quote]

But it should be noted it's a joke, a play on words about Clodia - Quintilian is quoting Caelius how he described Clodia as willing in the dining room but frigid in the bedroom.[/quote]

Yes, clever play on words! Thanks![/quote]

No problem

[Marcus Hadrianus]

Yup, seems legit

[Evolving]

Speako Latino, ergo clevero