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Sic dicit sapiens latina

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Non vitae, sed scholae discimus (We learn for life, not for school)
- Annaeus Seneca, Lucius. Epistulae morales ad Lucilium, CVI. (in Latin)
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Hoc tempore obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit. Terence
(These days friends are won through flattery, the truth gives birth to hate.)

I'd say not just in Roman times but in all times. :nono:
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Qualis pater, talis filius (like father like son) - original author unknown, some claim origin in such authors like Petronius (Qualis dominus talis est servus - as the master such the slave) , Coemius' Qualis hera talis catella (like the owneress such her bitch puppy) or even Ovid's Non procul a proprio stipite poma cadunt. (the apple doesn't fall far from the tree)
some even seek original inspiration in bible (Book of Ezekiel XVI, 44) i.e. Like mother such her daughter

Ezechiel 16:44 Latin: Vulgata Clementina
Ecce omnis qui dicit vulgo proverbium, in te assumet illud, dicens : Sicut mater, ita et filia ejus.
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O Sibile derego, fortibus es in ero, o nobile deus trux, votis inem Causan dux
Хлопнут без некролога. -- Серге́й Па́влович Королёв

Translation by Elbert Hubbard: Do not take life too seriously. You're not going to get out of it alive.
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[quote="Cito di Pense";p="2784349"]O Sibile derego, fortibus es in ero, o nobile deus trux, votis inem Causan dux[/quote]
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Qui se ultro morti offerant facilius reperiuntur quam qui dolorem patienter ferant. (those who will volunteer to die are easier found than those willing to endure pain patiently)
- Caesar, De Bello Galico, VII.77
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Arnaud Amalric wrote:Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.
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[quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]

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[quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]

It just used to be the hallmark of higher learning, since until the 18th century (plus-minus the century, depending on the geographical coordinates) most of the higher education was done in it. Somewhere even longer.

We can be happy however that these days scientific discoveries aren't written in Latin hexameters, as it was done when they discovered syphilis. I'm really not keen on reading an epic poem about syphilis.

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[quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]
And English is?
Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightment and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.
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[quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"][quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]
And English is?
Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightmend and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]

To be fair, they stole a lot from the Greeks. Only satyra lanx is their original form of literature. But yes, they were way better at anything practical than the Greeks. Engineering - yes, math zero points :D Philosophy, they just recycled the Greek philosophy. But they were better politicians. Greeks butchered themselves and handed over their arts to the Romans to be spread around the world.
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[quote="Bestiola";p="2784366"][quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"][quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]
And English is?
Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightmend and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]

To be fair, they stole a lot from the Greeks. Only satyra lanx is their original form of literature. But yes, they were way better at anything practical than the Greeks. Engineering - yes, math zero points :D Philosophy, they just recycled the Greek philosophy. But they were better politicians. Greeks butchered themselves and handed over their arts to the Romans to be spread around the world.[/quote]
Ut eleganter dixit poeta quidam Romanus ;)
Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artis
intulit agresti Latio.
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Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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Noli turbare circulos meos [eng. Don't disturb my circles]- Archimedes (allegedly)
Praecepta Hadrianina vitae iucundae sunt haec: cervesiam frigidam bibere, cannabim sativam nonnumquam fumere, amicos diligere, inimicis digitum medium ostendere, tesseras L-nummarias impendere, feleculas delicatius tractare, mammas sugere.
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[quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"]Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightmend and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]


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[quote="Spearthrower";p="2784373"][quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"]Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightmend and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]


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ROFL that's one of the best parts of the movie, along with the Biggus Dickus :D

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[quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784367"][quote="Bestiola";p="2784366"][quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"][quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]
And English is?
Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightmend and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]

To be fair, they stole a lot from the Greeks. Only satyra lanx is their original form of literature. But yes, they were way better at anything practical than the Greeks. Engineering - yes, math zero points :D Philosophy, they just recycled the Greek philosophy. But they were better politicians. Greeks butchered themselves and handed over their arts to the Romans to be spread around the world.[/quote]
Ut eleganter dixit poeta quidam Romanus ;)
Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artis
intulit agresti Latio.
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Ceterum censeo pedicandi sunt Graeci illi![/quote]

Yep I had Horace in mind :D
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One of the most known quotes from Roman literature (or at least tattooed - courtesy of Keanu Reeves)
Popular in military heraldy and civilian institutions, many international proverbs derive from this quote
Fortis fortuna adiuvat. - Fortune favours the brave ones. There are also some misconeptions - this is not a quote from Vergil's Aeneid (as some claim) - this is a quote from Terence

In Aeneid there is : Audaces fortuna iuvat timidosque repellit which can be translated as Fortune favours the bold ones and rejects the cowards.
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Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito! - Yield not to evils, but go against (them) ever more boldy!
-Virgil, Aeneid (VI.95)

This phrase is also motto of the Mises Institute (Austria)
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[quote="Marcus Hadrianus";p="2784365"][quote="Fenrir";p="2784361"][quote="Arnaud Amalric";p="2784361"]Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.[/quote]

Maybe Latin isn't necessarily the hallmark of wisdom, enlightened or otherwise.[/quote]
And English is?
Are you aware Romans built fundaments of western civilisation (legal system, administrative system, art, science etc); Most of the achievements in many fields of science, art, engineering etc. that some fools claim being fruits of enlightment and later periods originate from Rome. Many present quotes, proverbs, aforisms, words of wisdom etc, are nothing else than direct or indirect translations from works of Roman authors.[/quote]
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