Black hole breaks records, swallows up scientific theory

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Black hole breaks records, swallows up scientific theory

#1  Postby Scar » Feb 26, 2015 10:40 am

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/black-hole-breaks-records-swallows-up-scientific-theory-1.2971618?cmp=rss#oo

Scientists say they have discovered a black hole so big that it challenges the theory about how they grow.

Scientists said this black hole was formed about 900 million years after the Big Bang.

But with measurements indicating it is 12 billion times the size of the Sun, the black hole challenges a widely accepted hypothesis of growth rates
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#2  Postby Teague » Mar 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Wow that's pretty big then I guess. Maybe it will get so big it will reverse the universe, suck it back in and then explode again.

edit: Ok so the article says it's 12 billion times the mass.
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#3  Postby Blackadder » Mar 19, 2015 2:29 pm

Teague wrote:Wow that's pretty big then I guess. Maybe it will get so big it will reverse the universe, suck it back in and then explode again.

edit: Ok so the article says it's 12 billion times the mass.


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#4  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Mar 19, 2015 7:13 pm

Blackadder wrote:
Teague wrote:Wow that's pretty big then I guess. Maybe it will get so big it will reverse the universe, suck it back in and then explode again.

edit: Ok so the article says it's 12 billion times the mass.


Black mass? A sure sign that science is the work of Satan. Praise Dog and get ready to be ruptured. Sorry raptured.


You mean rapshired?



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#5  Postby Ironclad » Mar 19, 2015 8:15 pm

Teague wrote:Wow that's pretty big then I guess. Maybe it will get so big it will reverse the universe, suck it back in and then explode again.

edit: Ok so the article says it's 12 billion times the mass.


Thank fuck for that! I thought a black hole was a singularity, tiny at any mass, so had a WTF moment then
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#6  Postby Evolving » Mar 19, 2015 8:27 pm

How big (in terms of volume) a black hole is, depends on what you define as belonging to the black hole. If you define the boundary of the black hole as its Schwarzschild radius, then it can cover a fair amount of volume. The black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, in Sagittarius, is estimated to have a Schwarzschild radius of about 1.33 x 1010m, which is certainly tiny compared to the whole galaxy, but is very far from being a point or singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius
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#7  Postby hackenslash » Mar 19, 2015 8:35 pm

Not to mention that, at the risk of becoming dull and predictable, the singularity is hugely problematic, and is almost certainly the wrong picture.
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#8  Postby Evolving » Mar 19, 2015 8:47 pm

Oh, how dull and predictable.
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#9  Postby felltoearth » Mar 19, 2015 8:58 pm

Evolving wrote:How big (in terms of volume) a black hole is, depends on what you define as belonging to the black hole. If you define the boundary of the black hole as its Schwarzschild radius, then it can cover a fair amount of volume. The black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, in Sagittarius, is estimated to have a Schwarzschild radius of about 1.33 x 1010m, which is certainly tiny compared to the whole galaxy, but is very far from being a point or singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius


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#10  Postby hackenslash » Mar 19, 2015 9:02 pm

Evolving wrote:Oh, how dull and predictable.


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#11  Postby Evolving » Mar 19, 2015 9:03 pm

felltoearth wrote:
Evolving wrote:How big (in terms of volume) a black hole is, depends on what you define as belonging to the black hole. If you define the boundary of the black hole as its Schwarzschild radius, then it can cover a fair amount of volume. The black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, in Sagittarius, is estimated to have a Schwarzschild radius of about 1.33 x 1010m, which is certainly tiny compared to the whole galaxy, but is very far from being a point or singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius


There's a black hole in Sagittarius? That explains my ex.


If she was a typical Sagittarius, she will have drawn everything in and not let anything go unless it was travelling faster than light.
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#12  Postby Ironclad » Mar 19, 2015 9:57 pm

Evolving wrote:How big (in terms of volume) a black hole is, depends on what you define as belonging to the black hole. If you define the boundary of the black hole as its Schwarzschild radius, then it can cover a fair amount of volume. The black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, in Sagittarius, is estimated to have a Schwarzschild radius of about 1.33 x 1010m, which is certainly tiny compared to the whole galaxy, but is very far from being a point or singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius


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#15  Postby felltoearth » Mar 20, 2015 2:00 am

Evolving wrote:
felltoearth wrote:
Evolving wrote:How big (in terms of volume) a black hole is, depends on what you define as belonging to the black hole. If you define the boundary of the black hole as its Schwarzschild radius, then it can cover a fair amount of volume. The black hole at the centre of our own galaxy, in Sagittarius, is estimated to have a Schwarzschild radius of about 1.33 x 1010m, which is certainly tiny compared to the whole galaxy, but is very far from being a point or singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius


There's a black hole in Sagittarius? That explains my ex.


If she was a typical Sagittarius, she will have drawn everything in and not let anything go unless it was travelling faster than light.


Pretty much though I am kinda slow.
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