#3 by kiore » May 03, 2023 11:09 pm
Even if beaten to death it remains relevant for many of us.
Having been raised by non religious parents with occasional sunday school token attendance for some sort of reason I wasn't aware of at the time I lived non religious until as a vulnerable teenager I was "saved" and dicovered a world of instant social life with stuff to do and a vast disparity gender wise making me suddenly super attractive to the girls at church. This super attractiveness hadn't been my experience until then by the way. Proselytizing was heavily encouraged for various reasons and although money, power etc the usual reason, I actually hit on another reason while reading a manual on converting people from other religions/sects etc. In this book the author was targetting Mormons and writing of their 'missions; where they send 'elders' usually young people far from home to walk the streets saving souls for whatever. The key point the author mentioned was this was to keep the young people busy working for the sect and critically to have them so invested in the sect that it was very hard for them to walk back on it or leave. This was a revelation for this young reader as although the Mormons where targeted I saw this was true frequently across the board and perhaps true of my situation. This was if not the final straw for me, then it was a least a clear warning sign, was I being made so invested that I was trapped? Was I assuaging doubts by forcing others to believe?
Really I think the answer was: yes, I was being backed into a corner and what made it worse was I was actively pushing others into something I was becoming ambivilent at least about. I looked around and saw this very clearly in others, what may be seen as just run of the mill hypocrisy in many ways is a self defence manouver, I must be right, I forced others to believe this stuff and I can't leave as I am too invested, my ideas, my social world, my time.. Better to double down and become more dogmatic, force others to believe. Make the world fit my narrow world, I see this in the USA with the book banning etc. At least my experience of religion although fundie xtian was not the white supremicist fascist version I see here in the USA currently. I wrote previously in another thread many years ago about the last time I walked out of a service and shortly before I just kept walking was when a visiting preacher from the USA (I am not American BTW) came and spoke at a weeknight service I attended, this was right at my should I stay or should I go now period. He praised god for inventing AIDS to kill sinners and encouraged everyone to thank god for this, I declined and said loud enough for people to hear this is not correct and this is not the stance of this congregation, but people still cheered as instructed. I appealed to the elder present to stop the service but they were unable /unwilling, I walked out hoping the senior pastor who was absent would be horrified, but as I walked I thought well they invited this creature to speak unsupervised.
TLDR?
I understand, short version: I ran away giving up all and starting fresh, best decision ever.