Did anyone watch this last night?

I opened another thread this morning

there is a youtube link

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/nonth ... 35295.html

Animavore wrote:Did anyone watch this last night?

Yes. I was underwhelmed to be honest. Maybe because I've heard the arguments rehashed so many times. Dawkins did his stuff well enough but he's also done this hundreds of times now .

The chap showing Dawkins pictures of things that he would be disgusted by was one interesting. I won't spoil it here for those who haven't watched it yet but he made a very valid point about people having sex in a manner that "you might find disgusting", and what one's visceral reaction might be and what one's rational reaaction might be.

Other than that, meh.

I enjoyed the programme.

Ooh.
Someone mentioned Steven Pinker.
How long before Mr Samsa turns up to explain how Pinker is wrong about everything?

Animavore wrote:Did anyone watch this last night?

I watched it and I thought it was good. I'm sure you'll like it, it was all about sex. Apparently religious people are just as likely to engage in premarital sex and masturbation as are the non-religious. The only difference is that religious people feel really guilty and ashamed about it and are much more dishonest.

I missed it. Cannot find it available anywhere!

james1v wrote:I missed it. Cannot find it available anywhere!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhSYyvI-5k[/youtube]

The bit with Dawkins and his wolf were amusing.

Aca wrote:

james1v wrote:I missed it. Cannot find it available anywhere!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhSYyvI-5k[/youtube]

"Content blocked in your country"!

james1v wrote:

Aca wrote:

james1v wrote:I missed it. Cannot find it available anywhere!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhSYyvI-5k[/youtube]

"Content blocked in your country"!

So strange, I could watch it.

It still says its blocked in "your country". Anyhow, Ive just found out its going to be repeated on Channel4 at 2.30am this Thursday! Must record it.

Actually, that means its on on Friday morning at 2.30am.

tolman wrote:Ooh.
Someone mentioned Steven Pinker.
How long before Mr Samsa turns up to explain how Pinker is wrong about everything?

Not long. Pinker is wrong about everything.

I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, anybody recall any of the basic arguments he makes?

Dawkins on morality is blergh.

I think some guy claimed that, if you're in an audience and you are asked whether you masturbate, and you don't put your hand up, then you are a liar! A liar, liar, liar!

The rest was about as dumb. It seems Dawkins has started worshipping some guy called Reese On.

VazScep wrote:I think some guy claimed that, if you're in an audience and you are asked whether you masturbate, and you don't put your hand up, then you are a liar! A liar, liar, liar!

Or maybe just busy?

tolman wrote:

VazScep wrote:I think some guy claimed that, if you're in an audience and you are asked whether you masturbate, and you don't put your hand up, then you are a liar! A liar, liar, liar!

Or maybe just busy?

That made me literally LOL!

Reeve wrote:I watched it and I thought it was good. I'm sure you'll like it, it was all about sex. Apparently religious people are just as likely to engage in premarital sex and masturbation as are the non-religious. The only difference is that religious people feel really guilty and ashamed about it and are much more dishonest.

I think the problem with this argument is that people will (rightly) point out that this sense of guilt exists in almost every society, no matter how religious it is. I know an atheist girl in Vietnam who told me that the first time she had sex, she started crying afterwards, and to this day, she refuses to tell her parents, despite being sexually active for about 3 years (which they obviously know, but also engage in the sort of hypocritical denial mentioned in the programme). It's social pressure that's often the problem, be it religious or anything else. Caring what the "community" thinks about you. Entertaining judgemental and hypocritical pricks.

I'm With Stupid wrote:

Reeve wrote:I watched it and I thought it was good. I'm sure you'll like it, it was all about sex. Apparently religious people are just as likely to engage in premarital sex and masturbation as are the non-religious. The only difference is that religious people feel really guilty and ashamed about it and are much more dishonest.

I think the problem with this argument is that people will (rightly) point out that this sense of guilt exists in almost every society, no matter how religious it is. I know an atheist girl in Vietnam who told me that the first time she had sex, she started crying afterwards, and to this day, she refuses to tell her parents, despite being sexually active for about 3 years (which they obviously know, but also engage in the sort of hypocritical denial mentioned in the programme). It's social pressure that's often the problem, be it religious or anything else. Caring what the "community" thinks about you. Entertaining judgemental and hypocritical pricks.

That can't be right because the non-religious that they asked were honest about it, apparently.