I think it's kind of an absurdity that people have to earn the basics of life, food and a roof over one's head. Everybody should have that, no matter how leftie or lazy or loonie they are. There are certain things a society should guarantee.

Arjan Dirkse wrote:I think it's kind of an absurdity that people have to earn the basics of life, food and a roof over one's head. Everybody should have that, no matter how leftie or lazy or loonie they are. There are certain things a society should guarantee.

Okay, but have you ever considered that you're a filthy commie and you literally want society to collapse and for humankind to die off?

darnwelling wrote:It is not to be handed out to people who are too lazy or incompetent to earn it. I have no sympathy for anyone who whines about being poor, especially in this day and age. If you're poor, you deserve to be. If you want to be wealthy, work hard or work smart.

Cut to the chase and just say "black people". You know you want to. It's the everlasting and indestructible foundation that American "conservatism" is built upon: the belief that productive, industrious white people shouldn't have to pay taxes because the gubment just takes it and doles it out to lazy blacks.

Oh sure, conservatism gets a new coat of paint every generation—new excuses, new rationalizations, "it will trickle down, I promise!"—but when you boil away all the bullshit, what's left is white supremacy.

So just come out and say it already. You can't stomach the possibility that a dime of your hard-earned money might possibly be used to benefit unworthy black people, right? Just admit it now and spare us the pages upon pages of pointless shitposting.

I feel like the likelihood that the next thread is about either Critical Race Theory or systemic racism just increased massively. Anyone wanna bet the long odds?

Seabass wrote:

darnwelling wrote:It is not to be handed out to people who are too lazy or incompetent to earn it. I have no sympathy for anyone who whines about being poor, especially in this day and age. If you're poor, you deserve to be. If you want to be wealthy, work hard or work smart.

Cut to the chase and just say "black people". You know you want to. It's the everlasting and indestructible foundation that American "conservatism" is built upon: the belief that productive, industrious white people shouldn't have to pay taxes because the gubment just takes it and doles it out to lazy blacks.

Oh sure, conservatism gets a new coat of paint every generation—new excuses, new rationalizations, "it will trickle down, I promise!"—but when you boil away all the bullshit, what's left is white supremacy.

So just come out and say it already. You can't stomach the possibility that a dime of your hard-earned money might possibly be used to benefit unworthy black people, right? Just admit it now and spare us the pages upon pages of pointless shitposting.

The irony here is that your attitude to black people is condescending. You think black people are incapable of earning their own money so they need whites to subsidise them.

Just saying, since you brought up race.

What I'm saying is that no one has a right to a basic income. You work, you eat. You sit and complain, you die. No sympathy. I don't give a shit.

THE BIGOTRY OF LOW EXPECTATIONS

Does anyone have a Bingo card?

Oh the po' blacks. What shall we do to help them? They can't do shit for themselves, let's subsidize them and give them reparations. That'll solve their problems fo' sho'.

I like the affectation, very nice.

Greg the Grouper wrote:I like the affectation, very nice.

Mission accomplished, thank you.

Oh, no, please, I'm the one who's grateful.

Greg the Grouper wrote:Oh, no, please, I'm the one who's grateful.

No, I insist.

Finally a thread where people are kind and polite.

darnwelling wrote:

Greg the Grouper wrote:Oh, no, please, I'm the one who's grateful.

No, I insist.

Oh, no, I couldn't possibly

Greg the Grouper wrote:

darnwelling wrote:

Greg the Grouper wrote:Oh, no, please, I'm the one who's grateful.

No, I insist.

Oh, no, I couldn't possibly

Ok I'll let you win. Have the last word on this one. I better be careful anyway as I might get banned. Between you and me I don't think I'm liked much. And dat's da truth, Ruth.

darnwelling wrote:

Greg the Grouper wrote:

darnwelling wrote:

Greg the Grouper wrote:Oh, no, please, I'm the one who's grateful.

No, I insist.

Oh, no, I couldn't possibly

Ok I'll let you win. Have the last word on this one. I better be careful anyway as I might get banned. Between you and me I don't think I'm liked much. And dat's da truth, Ruth.

Folks here dislike you? I can't imagine why.

But yeah, you're obviously gonna get banned. It's not like you're gonna bow out willingly, right? So of course we're stuck waiting for the shoe to drop.

The question for me is which is more cost-effective:
1) providing people with a basic minimum wage safety net
2) or dealing with the aftermath of people falling through the cracks and potentially disrupting my nice lucky security?

Answers on the back of a post card please.

Greg the Grouper wrote:

darnwelling wrote:

Greg the Grouper wrote:

darnwelling wrote:

No, I insist.

Oh, no, I couldn't possibly

Ok I'll let you win. Have the last word on this one. I better be careful anyway as I might get banned. Between you and me I don't think I'm liked much. And dat's da truth, Ruth.

Folks here dislike you? I can't imagine why.

But yeah, you're obviously gonna get banned. It's not like you're gonna bow out willingly, right? So of course we're stuck waiting for the shoe to drop.

It's a lot more fun when you're on the run. Wanna join me?

romansh wrote:The question for me is which is more cost-effective:
1) providing people with a basic minimum wage safety net
2) or dealing with the aftermath of people falling through the cracks and potentially disrupting my nice lucky security?

Answers on the back of a post card please.

if you have a safety net, you have no incentive for people to do things for themselves. There's nothing wrong with a certain amount of welfare but it should be kept to a minimum. UBI is a stupid idea. Besides, companies would raise their prices making the whole thing pointless anyway. Unless of course the state gets involved, which is obviously a bad idea. The gov should be as small as possible and not get involved in people's lives so much. The whole UBI thing is just a dumb leftie pipedream.

darnwelling wrote:It's a lot more fun when you're on the run. Wanna join me?

As enticing an offer as that is, the short time in which I've known you as engendered in me an unfathomable disgust in your very existence. I'll have to pass on this one, but maybe next time?

Greg the Grouper wrote:

darnwelling wrote:It's a lot more fun when you're on the run. Wanna join me?

As enticing an offer as that is, the short time in which I've known you as engendered in me an unfathomable disgust in your very existence. I'll have to pass on this one, but maybe next time?

Name one thing about me that disgusts you. I bet you can't.