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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#61  Postby felltoearth » Aug 07, 2017 10:15 pm

No. it is that simple.
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#62  Postby Macdoc » Aug 08, 2017 12:44 am

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#63  Postby The_Piper » Aug 08, 2017 1:28 am

We still haves homes being built with trees cut on-site where I live. :mrgreen:
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#64  Postby zulumoose » Aug 08, 2017 6:26 am

The_Piper wrote:We still haves homes being built with trees cut on-site where I live. :mrgreen:


Untreated, unseasoned wood?

Sounds like a recipe for cracking/splitting, parasites, rot and fire risk.

I'm no carpentry expert, but even I know that construction wood should be cut and dried slowly to an ideal moisture content for strength, stability, and flexibility, and pressure treated to prevent rot & parasites, ideally with something fire retardant. Pressure treatment cannot penetrate much if the wood is not seasoned.

Maybe there are effective shortcuts I am unaware of?
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#65  Postby felltoearth » Aug 08, 2017 11:10 am

zulumoose wrote:
The_Piper wrote:We still haves homes being built with trees cut on-site where I live. :mrgreen:


Untreated, unseasoned wood?

Sounds like a recipe for cracking/splitting, parasites, rot and fire risk.

I'm no carpentry expert, but even I know that construction wood should be cut and dried slowly to an ideal moisture content for strength, stability, and flexibility, and pressure treated to prevent rot & parasites, ideally with something fire retardant. Pressure treatment cannot penetrate much if the wood is not seasoned.

Maybe there are effective shortcuts I am unaware of?

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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#66  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Aug 08, 2017 11:16 am

And it's not like we're talking around locations that are remote as fuck.

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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#67  Postby The_Piper » Aug 08, 2017 11:53 am

zulumoose wrote:
The_Piper wrote:We still haves homes being built with trees cut on-site where I live. :mrgreen:


Untreated, unseasoned wood?

Sounds like a recipe for cracking/splitting, parasites, rot and fire risk.

I'm no carpentry expert, but even I know that construction wood should be cut and dried slowly to an ideal moisture content for strength, stability, and flexibility, and pressure treated to prevent rot & parasites, ideally with something fire retardant. Pressure treatment cannot penetrate much if the wood is not seasoned.

Maybe there are effective shortcuts I am unaware of?
I'm not a carpenter either, but it's a selling point for houses when wood on site was used. In many buildings and houses the wood is not pressure treated. Some use whole logs, minus the bark. There are also Amish households, and a couple of places where they sell their sheds and cabins. They mill a lot of their own wood too. Maybe they pressure treat some of their wood, I don't know. I'll ask my neighbor sometime.
My house is old, but was not built with pressure treated wood. It's definitely flammable. If it had to be built from brick, concrete, stone, or pressure treated wood, it never would've been built at all, along with most of the other houses in northern Maine. This was the logging capital of the world when it was being settled.
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#68  Postby felltoearth » Aug 08, 2017 3:20 pm

There is no need to pressure treat wood that doesn't come into contact with soil. If you have moisture and mold issues, you haven't built your house properly.
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#69  Postby zulumoose » Aug 09, 2017 5:58 pm

felltoearth wrote:There is no need to pressure treat wood that doesn't come into contact with soil. If you have moisture and mold issues, you haven't built your house properly.


Because roofs and plumbing never leak, previous owners have always maintained the property perfectly, parasites only infest improperly built homes, and fire is not a concern.
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#70  Postby felltoearth » Aug 09, 2017 6:29 pm

Refer to the words "properly built."
And mold isn't an issue with a properly built home.
Pressure treated wood does nothing for fire so I don't know what you're on about there.
I would avoid the use of pressure treated wood as much as possible myself as the chemicals used are nasty.
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#71  Postby laklak » Aug 09, 2017 7:12 pm

Round these parts they use pressure treated for anything in contact with the slab, as most homes are built on a poured slab.
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#72  Postby theropod » Aug 09, 2017 7:35 pm

Someone let me know when they find a dry piece of pressure treated lumber. If you want to build your house out of stuff that will warp, twist, crack, shrink and split go for it.

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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#73  Postby felltoearth » Aug 09, 2017 7:36 pm

Well there's that too
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#74  Postby felltoearth » Aug 09, 2017 7:39 pm

laklak wrote:Round these parts they use pressure treated for anything in contact with the slab, as most homes are built on a poured slab.

You would only have to use it for your sill plates then. The rest could be regular framing lumber. Of course Alberta and Interior BC don't get the humidity levels you guys do.
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#75  Postby theropod » Aug 09, 2017 7:52 pm

Isn't it odd that there are timber framed houses well over a hundred years old that were built without a stick of pressure treated lumber? The ONLY advantages of pressure treated lumber is its resistance to rot when in constant contact with a moist surface such as the foundation or slab, and termite control. Standard softwood framing can withstand occasional wetting very well. It's repeated wetting and drying that degrades untreated wood, and larger problems exist if a house is allowing water penetration on a repeating basis. Properly applied insecticides which target termites, such as Termidor, have a very low environmental impact and need only be applied on a 8-10 year cycle. This approach is better because termites can, and do, bypass framing to target the other wooden elements of a house. Pressure treated wood has a place, but not in walls and roofing structures.

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#76  Postby Macdoc » Aug 09, 2017 10:42 pm

And of course in the area in question it's out of termite range...in addition there are natural insect resistant woods.

There are dozens of reasons to prefer a wood home over concrete or steel.
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#77  Postby laklak » Aug 14, 2017 3:04 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/06/iowa-man-tries-to-deposit-million-dollar-bill-gets-arrested-for-drugs.html

An Iowa man was arrested after police allegedly found him carrying meth as he tried to deposit a million-dollar bill into his bank account.
Dennis Strickland, 33, attempted to deposit the bill, which he said was worth $1 million, into his bank account in Sioux City on Thursday.
Law enforcement was quickly dispatched to the bank, KELO reported.
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#78  Postby The_Piper » Aug 14, 2017 5:05 pm

I didn't realize we had million dollar bills. I wonder why the bank called the cops, maybe that's standard procedure when someone tries to use one. :dopey:
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Re: You can't make these things up thread

#79  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 15, 2017 6:26 am

This was one but it is a forgery:
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The story behind it and you cant make this up:
In 2004, a woman in Covington, Georgia, tried to pick up a $1,675 tab at a local Wal-Mart with a forged $1 million bill featuring a picture of the Statue of Liberty. Police quickly arrested her. It's hard to say what's more ludicrous: trying to pass off a million-dollar bill or thinking that Wal-Mart would just fork over $998,325 in change.


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#80  Postby The_Piper » Aug 15, 2017 11:53 am

:lol: :lol: "The creatures of Wal Mart".
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