pfrankinstein wrote:Spearthrower wrote:Spearthrower wrote:You're nearly exactly a century late - we'll wait while you catch up with current knowledge.
My mistake - your ignorance is just 80 years behind the times. Given that includes the preponderance of modern science though, I shan't be holding my breath waiting for you to garner a fucking clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_Life%3F
And your
faulty reckoningwas 80 years in the making.
Tell me again how the Darwinian process appeared as if by magic.
No wherefrom or wheretoo explanation about it?
Just appeared by magic.. out of the blue.
I explained this to you 15 fucking years ago. You're reifying an abstract description of a suite of interactions. Absent the conditions, absent the components of these interactions, those interactions did not occur, they weren't there, they were not hanging about in Platonic space waiting for life to form.
You're acting as if the fact that something is possible in the universe therefore logically means it had a beginning at the advent of the universe.
This is just arse water. Irrational, illogical, arse-about-tit thinking.
I've tried being kind, informative, and even helpful to you in the past, but it's not fucking worth it - you're not fucking worth it. You're not interested in learning anything, you're pretending to yourself that he stunted view you offer is all-encompassing when all it's really encompassing is your ignorance.
But it's utter arse water, Paul. You're not the fucking Messiah, your idea is shite, painfully stupid, and you need to get a fucking grip on yourself before you waste this life thinking that this nonsense makes you special.
It has already been explained to you so many times a fucking rock would have had a glimmer of understanding by now that the fundamental forces in this universe ARE the universe, that's what it fucking means. So of course anything that DOES happen, CAN happen - you seem to have stunned yourself senseless for at least 15 years with this outlandish discovery!
But that doesn't mean that Darwinian selection can be claimed to have originated in a universe ABSENT the conditions and components of the very interactions which we label 'Darwinian selection', you know, like LIFE!
Instead, as has been explained to you already, and if you were genuinely competent and interested you would have stopped yapping and run off to educate yourself looooong ago - instead, what you need to be reading up on and garnering a basic fucking clue about are the thermodynamic properties of the universe, how these shape and direct interactions, how disequilibria like proton gradients create, shape, and constrain the huge panoply of possible interactions.
The conditions at the advent of the expansion of the universe weren't even relevant to star formation, Paul. There are boundary changes, state changes that have no real relationship with the states that notionally caused them to be.
If you refuse to even try and engage in this nuanced and elegant discovery of how our universe actually works, then your loss is made only bigger by your foolish pretense that you know what you're talking about. Get over yourself, plumb your ignorance, revel in true discovery and fucking grow man - fifteen years of your 1 life wasted on this buggery.