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Fenrir wrote:The environment has a great capacity to adapt. Specially when it's under 20m of sand. Lots of adaptation, see it all the time. Nothing new here, move along.
Scot Dutchy wrote:Fenrir wrote:The environment has a great capacity to adapt. Specially when it's under 20m of sand. Lots of adaptation, see it all the time. Nothing new here, move along.
What are you on about? Australia funny enough is not the world thank goodness and just because you are making the biggest mess of your environment not all countries are doing that.
Fenrir wrote:Scot Dutchy wrote:Fenrir wrote:The environment has a great capacity to adapt. Specially when it's under 20m of sand. Lots of adaptation, see it all the time. Nothing new here, move along.
What are you on about? Australia funny enough is not the world thank goodness and just because you are making the biggest mess of your environment not all countries are doing that.
"The environment" does not and cannot adapt when it is buried. It dies. Period. Full stop.
A new ecosystem may develop on top of the newly reclaimed land but it will not be the same as was originally there. In many cases the new ecosystem will be highly depauperate as compared to the original.
This is basic stuff for fucks sake.
*and you can shove your gratuitous and snide comments about the location of any poster who deigns to question the received wisdom of Scott up your arse.
Fenrir wrote:Reclaimed land is not wetlands.
Bird sanctuaries are not generally created on reclaimed land.
Do you even read what you write?
Fenrir wrote:Being a bit of a pedant I see distinct differences between land reclamation, which generally involves filling low-lying land or land below the high tide mark and land restoration, which generally involves attempting sone sort of rehabilitation of degraded or otherwise highly disturbed land.
My comments are only directed at land reclamation.
That some usian jurisdictions (and it seems small areas of the Netherlands) conflate or confuse the two is news to me.
Scot Dutchy wrote:Dont apply what happens in Australia or the Americas as what happens everywhere. South America is one hell of a mess.
What lak says about Florida just would not happen here.
Since 1950, the main OECD countries have lost nearly 13 per cent of their wetlands, and Germany and the Netherlands have lost over 50 per cent, with important consequences for the Rhine.
Sendraks wrote:Scot Dutchy wrote:Dont apply what happens in Australia or the Americas as what happens everywhere. South America is one hell of a mess.
What lak says about Florida just would not happen here.
Global Hydrology: Processes, Resources and Environmental Management by J A A A Jones
Page 324Since 1950, the main OECD countries have lost nearly 13 per cent of their wetlands, and Germany and the Netherlands have lost over 50 per cent, with important consequences for the Rhine.
So the Dutch have lost over 50% of their wetlands. That's a fucking ecosystem disaster right there.
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