Given: God favors the faithful.

So, does god abhor intellectuals - and favors naivete?

However, god gave humans the brightest brain in all his creation (refer to the Genesis creation account & similar creation accounts in other religions) - BUT NOW wants humans to suppress it?

Non-suppression of god-given intellectual power and thought could eventually lead atheists/agnostics to eternal damnation in hell?

In Genesis, man was "created in god's image."

Thus, god should condemn & abhor himself - for he is inherently intellectually omnipotent and divine?

Your thoughts, please.

Why, Rohm?

What do you expect we will learn from discussing this?

The_Metatron wrote:Why, Rohm?

What do you expect we will learn from discussing this?

I want feedback and discussion.

Is the reasoning logical or flawed?

In as much as it assumes the a priori existence of god, yes. Engaging beyond that implies tacit agreement that god exists.

The first metaphor that came to mind was setting up a discussion about whether balrogs like milk in their tea or not.

The_Metatron wrote:In as much as it assumes the a priori existence of god, yes. Engaging beyond that implies tacit agreement that god exists.

The first metaphor that came to mind was setting up a discussion about whether balrogs like milk in their tea or not.

I'm pretty sure its milk and no sugar with Balrogs.

The_Metatron wrote:In as much as it assumes the a priori existence of god, yes. Engaging beyond that implies tacit agreement that god exists.

The first metaphor that came to mind was setting up a discussion about whether balrogs like milk in their tea or not.

Good point.

Assuming that god exists may lead to uncovering inconsistencies that could disprove god.

Rohm wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:In as much as it assumes the a priori existence of god, yes. Engaging beyond that implies tacit agreement that god exists.

The first metaphor that came to mind was setting up a discussion about whether balrogs like milk in their tea or not.

Good point.

Assuming that god exists may lead to uncovering inconsistencies that could disprove god.

Of course you know, it's pretty much impossible to disprove anything. Can you think of something we know now that was learned by disproving something instead of proving something?

Could God condemn himself? If he can't, he's not omnipotent: but if he can, the same.

A paradox is a-brewin'.

But if gawd condemns himself, he will be denying many atheists a hobby

We'll just have to invent a new one if the situation arises.

i vote for condemning fairies (the winged type not the..oh nevermind )
I don't trust their cute-as-a-button noses and what's with that fairy dust? Narcotics, i'll wager!

The_Metatron wrote:

Rohm wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:In as much as it assumes the a priori existence of god, yes. Engaging beyond that implies tacit agreement that god exists.

The first metaphor that came to mind was setting up a discussion about whether balrogs like milk in their tea or not.

Good point.

Assuming that god exists may lead to uncovering inconsistencies that could disprove god.

Of course you know, it's pretty much impossible to disprove anything. Can you think of something we know now that was learned by disproving something instead of proving something?

Allow me to elaborate.

I am not using this argument solely to disprove god.

There are a host of varied arguments we can use, which either prove and/or disprove god, along a continuum of varying types of arguments & strength of arguments.

In the end, the totality of the collective arguments build a comprehensive case to prove and/or disprove god.

In civil litigation, the legal burden of proof required is the "preponderance of the evidence" or "balance of probabilities."

The addition of a valid new argument (either major, moderate or minor) to the collective preponderance of evidence only helps builds the larger and comprehensive case; hence this new argument presented.

In using brainstorming techniques, the new argument presented may be in its novel raw form - so that others may build, develop and polish it.