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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4221  Postby Ravenloonatikk » Aug 02, 2015 1:38 am

Aca wrote:
Ray Comfort strikes again.

Yesterday on his FB page

I read where an atheist said in the comments, “If God does exist, He has a lot to answer for.”

I don’t think I would be exaggerating if I surmised that he is an average human being who proves to be a lying, thieving, lust-filled fornicator,


OMG!!! I've been an Atheist all these years and I've been doing it WRONG!!!!

I shall start lying, thieving, and, most especially, lustfully fornicating, immediately!!!

Thank You, Ray!

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4222  Postby Calilasseia » Aug 05, 2015 12:31 am

Aca wrote:checkmate, ahteizts

:lol:

It never ceases to amaze me how people can spout so much ignorance in so little space and think that they are doing something incredibly clever and smart.

edit: from this FB group https://www.facebook.com/TheAbsurdityOfAtheism


What a total piece of crap.

Let's deal with these in sequence, shall we? Once again, personal pronouns addressed to the original author of this drivel.

[1] This isn't what cosmologists postulate, who, incidentally, are the actual people who postulate testaable natural mechanisms for the emergence of physical entities and phenomena. What those cosmologists actually postulate, instead of this ridiculous and tiresome supernaturalist strawman caricature of actual physics, is that the processes responsible for the instantiation of the universe, dumped a large quantity of energy into the space-time vacuum, and that the matter we observe arose from that energy. Courtesy of a little equation you might have heard of, that was derived by a certain Mr A. Einstein, namely:

E = mc2

Now we know that this equation, demonstrating the equivalence of matter and energy, works. It's the equation that describes the liberation of energy from nuclear weapons. which manifestly work. As a consequence, I suggest you start learning what physicists actually postulate, and pick up some relevant physics textbooks.

Moving on ...

[2] Actually, this is also wrong. This is because during the first Planck second, the energy dumped into the space-time vacuum was sufficient to keep the ambient temperature at around 1043 Kelvins, a temperature at which stable matter particles are not known to exist. The conditions facilitating the emergence of stable matter particles only arose after space-time expansion had resulted in the ambient temperature dropping to somewhere nearer 1015 Kelvins. Even then, those stable matter particles were too energetic for neutral atoms to form. That had to wait until the ambient temperature had cooled to around 10[sup]3[sup] Kelvins, at which point space-time expansion had resulted in the effective radius of the space-time vacuum becoming something of the order of several thousand light years.

[3] Oh dear. The Big Bang was not a fucking "explosion". It was an expansion of the space-time vacuum. Plus, the assembling of neutral atoms into ordered structures was facilitated by gravity, which attracts particles with mass to each other. Once again, pick up a physics textbook and learn what physicists actually postulate.

[4] Actually, the modern cosmological view is that the laws of physics were always present. Indeed, cutting edge cosmological research is aimed at determining the nature of the laws that existed before the Big Bang. See, for example, braneworld cosmology. Which, at the moment, whilst still awaiting direct empirical test (though Steinhardt & Turok presented a possible empirical test in two of their peer reviewed papers on the subject), is still mathematically consistent with known physics.

[5] Oh wait, this might have something to do with the fact that the behaviour of gravity has been subject to constant and precise observation for 350 years, and has been observed behaving in the same manner throughout that entire period. Plus, if gravity had behaved differently in the past, this would have been reflected in observations of distant objects, which would now be observed forming structures in accordance with a different behaviour of gravity, Anyone who passed their exams in calculus is equipped to demonstrate the results of those different behaviours, if they had ever occurred.

[6] This isn't a "miracle", it's chemistry. Life is chemistry writ large. Millions of chemical reactions are taking place in your body every second, and if some of those chemical reactions stop, you die. It therefore makes eminent sense to postulate a chemical origin for life. The research demonstrating in the laboratory, that relevant chemical reactions work with respect to such matters as the formation of proteins, lipids and nucleic acids, is contained in several thousand peer reviewed scientific papers. Go and read them.

[7] Bullshit plain and simple. The number of peer reviewed scientific papers containing documentation of empirical tests of evolutionary postulates, runs into the millions. Oh, and this includes direct observation in the laboratory of the emergence of multicellularity in populations of single-celled organisms. Once again, go and learn what biologists actually postulate, instead of pretending that your sad little caricatures thereof constitute the reality. They don't. Game Over.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4223  Postby Thorham » Aug 05, 2015 1:56 pm

Or the universe was made by undetectable goblins out of magical pixie dust, and it looks like a big bang. No way to know, really.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4224  Postby Ironclad » Aug 05, 2015 8:35 pm

Just as likely :D
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4225  Postby campermon » Aug 05, 2015 10:08 pm

Thorham wrote:Or the universe was made by undetectable goblins out of magical pixie dust, and it looks like a big bang. No way to know, really.


I broadly agree with you except for one crucial point; it was pixie fluff, not dust. I have the same magic book as you, but I have a superior way of reading it.

I'm sure you'll agree that I am correct.

If you don't then, well, I'm afraid I'll have to wage long and bloody war upon you.

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4226  Postby Thorham » Aug 06, 2015 3:14 pm

campermon wrote:If you don't then, well, I'm afraid I'll have to wage long and bloody war upon you.

Sadly that has happened all too often.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4227  Postby Agrippina » Aug 11, 2015 8:29 am

Here's one to have some fun with.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4228  Postby ADParker » Aug 11, 2015 8:34 am

So much stupid. :lol:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4229  Postby Greyman » Aug 11, 2015 8:51 am

What the. :nono:

Okay, so the author has the nous to do some basic math, annotate his reference sources, and even jazz it up with a nice diagram, but yet apparently failed grade 3 science on The Water Cycle? :crazy:

Where does the water go? :ask:

Wee, wee, wee, all the way home. :doh:

Got to call Poe's Law on this one.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4230  Postby Agrippina » Aug 11, 2015 9:05 am

That's what I thought when I saw it, but apparently it's real. Some moron on Facebook posted that. Sigh.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4231  Postby Greyman » Aug 11, 2015 9:15 am

Agrippina wrote:That's what I thought when I saw it, but apparently it's real. Some moron on Facebook posted that. Sigh.
Seriously? That's the very point of Poe's Law.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4232  Postby Agrippina » Aug 11, 2015 9:32 am

Greyman wrote:
Agrippina wrote:That's what I thought when I saw it, but apparently it's real. Some moron on Facebook posted that. Sigh.
Seriously? That's the very point of Poe's Law.


I meant that it seems that it's a parody of an extreme view, but I'm almost certain from the context in which I found it that the writer of the meme really was trying to show that if the earth was as old as we say it is, all the water would have been used up by now. Theists really do say the stupidest stuff and mean it. This isn't what I understand Poe's law to mean. I understand it to mean that someone says something so ridiculous that readers have to know it's just a joke. I don't think this person is joking. But hey, I might be wrong, I don't always get the point of a joke. :thumbup:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4233  Postby Alan B » Aug 11, 2015 10:27 am

As I read that blurb, it looks like the author is suggesting that 'scientists' say that there were 6 to 7 billion humans around 3 billion years ago... As though 'life' equates to human life as it is today.

Or have I completely misunderstood this Earth shattering revelation? :scratch:

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4234  Postby OlivierK » Aug 11, 2015 11:08 am

I'm more interested in the revelation that as I've been on this planet for over 17,500 days, taking in 2 litres of water every day without giving anything back, that I now weigh over 35 tonnes.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4235  Postby ADParker » Aug 11, 2015 11:31 am

Which is why I didn't comment directly on any content specifically; there is just SO MUCH wrong with it from start to finish. :roll:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4236  Postby Calilasseia » Aug 11, 2015 12:39 pm

Doesn't this person ever piss?
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4237  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 11, 2015 12:53 pm

Do angels pee?
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4238  Postby Agrippina » Aug 11, 2015 12:57 pm

Calilasseia wrote:Doesn't this person ever piss?


That was my first response when I saw it this morning. :thumbup:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#4239  Postby Alan B » Aug 11, 2015 6:12 pm

OlivierK wrote:I'm more interested in the revelation that as I've been on this planet for over 17,500 days, taking in 2 litres of water every day without giving anything back, that I now weigh over 35 tonnes.

You really should get out more and do some exercise. :snooty:
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#4240  Postby Alan B » Aug 11, 2015 6:16 pm

And of course it doesn't say anywhere in the Dribble that the Earth is 6000 years old. Bishop Ussher was a twat.
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