Blackadder wrote:I've sat in mosques and been through the exact same thing. I know that even when most of the congregation are bored senseless with the imam getting hot under the collar about stuff they frankly couldn't give a shit about, they will still raise their hands so as not to be seen as some kind of bad muslim. I'm not defending the viewpoints expressed in the video, just saying that expecting many people to object in such a setting would be like a Nazi rally in the 1930s being asked "so who thinks the Jews are OK really?".

ED209 wrote:Is that a 'reverse godwin'

I'm With Stupid wrote:I tend to avoid listening to anyone who purports to speak for all Muslims.

jez9999 wrote:I don't really agree with Sam Harris in that blog post; he seems to assume that the vast majority of Muslims aren't people with these horrible views. But doesn't he spend a lot of time saying that the true Islam promotes them? We really need to start calling the 90% that (supposedly) disagree with them what they really are: pseudo-Muslims. They are not "moderate". There is no way to reject fundamental teachings of your religion without simply not being an actual Muslim. You're a pseudo-Muslim. how can we get that term to catch on?

MacIver wrote:I don't disagree with any of that, but why focus on Islam? Surely the same can be said for all Abrahamic faiths?

Oeditor wrote:

MacIver wrote:I don't disagree with any of that, but why focus on Islam? Surely the same can be said for all Abrahamic faiths?

Maybe because Islam is the only Abrahamic religion that can easily rustle up and film an audience approving of the ritual murder of adulterers and homosexuals and agreeing that it is "the most perfect of punishments"?