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Music and politics

#1  Postby aban57 » Dec 08, 2011 1:32 pm

Exceptionnally, I was watching (French) TV yesterday, and there was a program with artists, including a singer I really like, Bénabar, who just released a new album this week.

The first song of this album is called "politiquement correct", and it basically says : yes, I'm against war, I'm not against muslims, I don't think there are too many jews in finances, so yes, I'm politically correct, and I fuck you.
You can see it here [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_I5YrBaUfw[/youtube]
The discussion went to politically singers, which basically don't exist anymore in France.
In the 80's, we had stand-up comedians (Coluche) or singers (Daniel Balavoine) who were very engaged into politics.
Coluche fought against Europe to be able to give extra food to charity, created Les Restos du Coeur in the process.
Balavoine had memorable discussions against politics, even against the President ([youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9a8DwV90yY[/youtube])
But now, singers tend to be very discrete on politics. Of course, some songs are very engaged, and we often see singers give concerts to support a candidate before an election, but no more.

So I was wondering if this "pattern" was general in the world, or specific to France.
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Re: Music and politics

#2  Postby THWOTH » Dec 08, 2011 7:35 pm

I think you find a lot of political material outside of the mainstream. Pop success is reliant on reproductive messages and catatonic rhythms and overt political messages are seen to be bad for business from the corporate point of view - if you want the widest possible appeal then must not alienates a section of your potential audience. But a lot of music is overtly political, and one must note that music has played a large part in African and Middle-Eastern politics for many, many years (including this year's so-called Arab Spring revolutions).

Anyway, here's a couple of my favourites from the olden days...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGO8HN1QQdI[/youtube]
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#3  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 08, 2011 8:25 pm

From this year, the first one that comes to mind is Let England Shake by PJ Harvey.
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#4  Postby aban57 » Dec 09, 2011 10:12 am

I don't count rap and r&b, since they've always been more or less based on criticism of politics.

And as I said, I make the difference between a guy whos sings engaged songs, and a singer who engages himself in a politic fight
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#5  Postby THWOTH » Dec 09, 2011 11:23 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggAj2cEgl_0[/youtube]
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#6  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 09, 2011 5:13 pm

I'm a fan of Bjork on Facebook, and she's always banging on about political stuff. It's mainly local Icelandic stuff though, so you don't hear about it too much.
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#7  Postby gallstones2 » Feb 10, 2012 9:01 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blCI9w7tw5k[/youtube]
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#8  Postby THWOTH » Feb 10, 2012 11:17 pm

Hiya Stanley :wave:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-KM5iWh_l8[/youtube]


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#9  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Feb 11, 2012 12:08 am

The best method for turning me off to an artist is for them to go political. Fucking hate music that tries to lecture you.
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#10  Postby THWOTH » Feb 11, 2012 12:27 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:The best method for turning me off to an artist is for them to go political. Fucking hate music that tries to lecture you.

Someone should write a song about that.
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#11  Postby cherubfish » Feb 20, 2012 3:56 pm

Can I ask if there are any countries that still have singers sing political songs?

I'm so not experienced in this field, and am very stuck in my essay.
The essay is in fact and Op-Ed about "Music and Politics"
and it has to be recent, and NOT from China...
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#12  Postby j.mills » Feb 20, 2012 5:48 pm

Here's a belter from the ever-sharp Roy Harper, written in the Blair era. Hear it build!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TepF7ToWXS0[/youtube]


Billy Bragg I suppose is a very obviously 'engaged' political singer.
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#13  Postby j.mills » Feb 20, 2012 6:20 pm

Bono, of course. Geldof. The Indigo Girls are forever campaigning for good stuff.
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#14  Postby cherries » Feb 20, 2012 7:57 pm

cherubfish wrote:Can I ask if there are any countries that still have singers sing political songs?

I'm so not experienced in this field, and am very stuck in my essay.
The essay is in fact and Op-Ed about "Music and Politics"
and it has to be recent, and NOT from China...


there's a thread here with some political folk songs,got a bit mixed up with other folk music though but still you should find some stuff,especially at the beginning,the original thread title was ,folk songs,not lala :) http://www.rationalskepticism.org/music/folk-music-t18278.html
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#15  Postby Sgt Kelly » Feb 20, 2012 8:08 pm

Daan having a go at Flemish separatism (chorus goes "Your country isn't my country, cause your country is a landmine" the wordplay is lost in translation of course). I can think of a few more but the songs all tend to be as terrible as this one, so I won't bother posting them.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQCCbp-sUU[/youtube]
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Re: Music and politics

#16  Postby smudge » Feb 20, 2012 8:47 pm

Lots of US and UK punk bands are very political

Here are a few I like;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjQ_gdgBZM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZyT9pRemA[/youtube]
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#17  Postby smudge » Feb 20, 2012 8:49 pm

And;

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94vo6NzQD5c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBtvabPee1U[/youtube]
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Re: Music and politics

#18  Postby Seabass » Feb 20, 2012 9:15 pm

CdesignProponentsist wrote:The best method for turning me off to an artist is for them to go political. Fucking hate music that tries to lecture you.


:this:
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#19  Postby Matt8819 » Feb 20, 2012 9:15 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrqCcY-qkc[/youtube]
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#20  Postby cherries » Feb 20, 2012 9:44 pm

Seabass wrote:
CdesignProponentsist wrote:The best method for turning me off to an artist is for them to go political. Fucking hate music that tries to lecture you.


:this:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IUA8W8xuM[/youtube]
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