Spearthrower wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34594563

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been criticised for saying a Palestinian leader persuaded the Nazis to carry out the Holocaust.

Mr Netanyahu insisted Adolf Hitler had only wanted to expel Jews from Europe, but that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini told him: "Burn them."

This man is a loon.

If Holocaust denial is forbidden in some states, then surely so should revisionist shifting of the blame be.

DarthHelmet86 wrote:That cant be true...it just can't. I refuse to accept it.

Benjamin Netanyahu has publicly asserted that Adolf Hitler had no intention of exterminating Europe’s Jews until a Palestinian persuaded him to do it.

The Israeli prime minister’s attempt to whitewash Hitler and lay the blame for the Holocaust at the door of Palestinians signals a major escalation of his incitement against and demonization of the people living under his country’s military and settler-colonial rule.

It also involves a good deal of Holocaust denial.

In a speech to the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem on Tuesday, Netanyahu asserted that Haj Amin al-Husseini convinced Hitler to carry out the killings of 6 million Jews.

Al-Husseini was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, the highest clerical authority dealing with religious issues pertaining to the Muslim community and holy sites during the 1920s and ‘30s, when Palestine was under British rule.

He was appointed to the role by Herbert Samuel, the avowed Zionist who was the first British High Commissioner of Palestine.

In the video above, Netanyahu claims that al-Husseini “had a central role in fomenting the final solution. He flew to Berlin. Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, ‘If you expel them, they’ll all come here.’ ‘So what should I do with them?’ he asked. ‘Burn them!’”

There is no record of such a conversation whatsoever, and Netanyahu provides no evidence that it ever took place.

The Mufti did meet Hitler, once, but their 95-minute conversation took place on 28 November 1941. Husseini used it to try to secure the Führer’s support for Arab independence, as historian Philip Mattar explains in his book The Mufti of Jerusalem.

By then, Hitler’s plans to exterminate the Jews were already well under way.

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Spearthrower wrote:If Holocaust denial is forbidden in some states, then surely so should revisionist shifting of the blame be.

Spearthrower wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34594563

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been criticised for saying a Palestinian leader persuaded the Nazis to carry out the Holocaust.

Mr Netanyahu insisted Adolf Hitler had only wanted to expel Jews from Europe, but that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini told him: "Burn them."

This man is a loon.

If Holocaust denial is forbidden in some states, then surely so should revisionist shifting of the blame be.

Israel's opposition head and Zionist Union leader Isaac Herzog strongly criticized Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday for the premier's claims that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler's mind.
"This is a dangerous historical distortion and I demand Netanyahu correct it immediately as it minimizes the Holocaust, Nazism and…Hitler's part in our people's terrible disaster," Herzog wrote on his Facebook page. He said Netanyahu's statement – which was made Tuesday in a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, plays into the hands of Holocaust deniers.

crank wrote:There's a good piece in Haaretz, as far as I know one of the best [has some balance at least] Israeli newspapers:
Opposition Blasts Netanyahu for 'Distorting' Holocaust History

Israel's opposition head and Zionist Union leader Isaac Herzog strongly criticized Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday for the premier's claims that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler's mind.
"This is a dangerous historical distortion and I demand Netanyahu correct it immediately as it minimizes the Holocaust, Nazism and…Hitler's part in our people's terrible disaster," Herzog wrote on his Facebook page. He said Netanyahu's statement – which was made Tuesday in a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, plays into the hands of Holocaust deniers.

Is Nutnyahoo deranged, or maybe he's become blind to the obviousness of his lies? I've seen some pretty despicable BS coming out of the mouths of Israeli apologists, but this is way way the fuck off the chart. Maybe they're getting desperate with the Palestinians joining the International Court. Do a little googling and you can find all kinds of hysterics over that.

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Sendraks wrote:

I confess I missed the bit in the history books where the conquering Polish forces marched into Germany at the end of WWII and forcibly annexed portions of that nation's land.

Totally passed me by it did.

Something like that did happen though, although it wasn't the Polish that did the marching, the land was occupied by the Soviet army. The Soviets annexed a part of what was formerly Eastern Poland into the Soviet Union. Then part of Eastern Germany was taken and added to the new Polish state, and the German population forcibly expelled. Basically Poland shifted a few hundred kilometers to the West. Germany only accepted this as a permanent situation in the 1990s.

There is a superficial similarity with how Israel occupies arts of the West Bank, yet that doesn't make it acceptable. Nor is it really comparable, even with the territorial loss Germany was still the largest country in Europe.

edit: I didn't see your post on this Nicko, thanks for pointing out that the UN didn't exist yet at that point in time

The lands were all contested for centuries - Danzig, for example, was known as Gdansk going back hundreds of years to Pommeranian Poland when they took it from the Teutonic Order. In the century or so prior to the 2nd world war, it has been annexed by Russia and by Prussia, and spent some time as a free city.

This has no analogy whatsoever to Israel & Palestine.

Edit: my mistake - it was actually Polish territory prior even to Teutonic Order:

960-992 CE