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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#161  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 2:34 pm

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Race dictates social status to a large extent.


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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#162  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 2:36 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:I am just amazed at some of the posters when reading this thread and the other.

Here we have a 6' 4" 300 lbs felony strong armed robbery suspect physically assaulting a police officer and the cop should not have shot, yet a 12 year old having a toy gun in his waist band deserves immediate execution.

I will put it down to years of propaganda in which the word "gun" causes a pavlov's dog reaction.


And I raise you the centuries of propaganda in which black skin causes a pavlov's dog reaction.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#163  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 2:42 pm

Steve wrote:
And I raise you the centuries of propaganda in which black skin causes a pavlov's dog reaction.


Thanks to the evolutionists.

Good thing in America a person with more melanin can become President.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#164  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 2:46 pm

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Steve wrote:
And I raise you the centuries of propaganda in which black skin causes a pavlov's dog reaction.


Thanks to the evolutionists.

Good thing in America a person with more melanin can become President.

And the dog drool exploded.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#165  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 2:56 pm

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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#166  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 3:06 pm

Hmmmm Job lost versus lives lost. As one protester responded "We would be out here protesting for you if you child was killed this way."
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#167  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 3:27 pm

Back to the racism, this seems to me how it works.



And it is also how my meditation works. The process is not stoppable so I try and apply it to the benefit of everyone. It all boils down to what company you keep, what thoughts you let work through your brain.
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#168  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 3:30 pm

That is nothing more than one of those silly motivational posters.

I know you have a desire to make it about race, but this case is not. It is about a strong arm robbery and assault on a police officer.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#169  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 3:42 pm

Which arises out of poverty. tic toc.
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#170  Postby Steve » Nov 29, 2014 3:44 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:That is nothing more than one of those silly motivational posters.

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#171  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 3:52 pm

Extrapolating that to human interaction is sounding a lot like astrology.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#172  Postby laklak » Nov 29, 2014 4:07 pm

I don't think either one deserved to be shot, I think they're both tragic situations and either or both are a police overreaction. However, I don't think the Brown case rises to manslaughter. I can't speak to the 12 year old, there's not enough information yet. I don't believe the Brown case is a deliberate whitewash by the grand jury, nor do I think the public reaction is justified.
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#173  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 4:24 pm

Steve wrote:Which arises out of poverty. tic toc.


You must know that the vast majority of poor people in Ferguson are not criminals, yes?
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#174  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 29, 2014 4:28 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:I am just amazed at some of the posters when reading this thread and the other.

Here we have a 6' 4" 300 lbs felony strong armed robbery suspect physically assaulting a police officer and the cop should not have shot, yet a 12 year old having a toy gun in his waist band deserves immediate execution.

I will put it down to years of propaganda in which the word "gun" causes a pavlov's dog reaction.



Or perhaps you're just not reading people's arguments and are instead contriving them together with the typical emotive rhetoric which seems to characterize your posting.

Prison Planet is that way --->
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#175  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 29, 2014 4:28 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Race dictates social status to a large extent.


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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#176  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 29, 2014 4:30 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Steve wrote:
And I raise you the centuries of propaganda in which black skin causes a pavlov's dog reaction.


Thanks to the evolutionists.


Are you a Creationist, Jerome?

That would explain an awful lot!


Jerome Da Gnome wrote:Good thing in America a person with more melanin can become President.


And spend most of his first term facing accusations of being a foreigner and a closet Muslim.
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#177  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 29, 2014 4:31 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:That is nothing more than one of those silly motivational posters.

I know you have a desire to make it about race, but this case is not. It is about a strong arm robbery and assault on a police officer.



You may have a strong desire for it to not be about race, but your desire doesn't mean that discussing whether it has something to do with race is off limits. Feel free to ignore posts you don't want to engage.
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#178  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 29, 2014 4:32 pm

laklak wrote:I don't think either one deserved to be shot, I think they're both tragic situations and either or both are a police overreaction. However, I don't think the Brown case rises to manslaughter. I can't speak to the 12 year old, there's not enough information yet. I don't believe the Brown case is a deliberate whitewash by the grand jury, nor do I think the public reaction is justified.


That's because you're a reasonable chap, Lak! ;)
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#179  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Nov 29, 2014 4:34 pm

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And spend most of his first term facing accusations of being a foreigner and a closet Muslim.


The last guy faced accusations of being a drunk chimp, that's what we do here. The guy before that was a murdering rapist ...
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Re: Ferguson vs. the Police PT. 2

#180  Postby laklak » Nov 29, 2014 4:35 pm

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And spend most of his first term facing accusations of being a foreigner and a closet Muslim.


Lol ST, I first read that as "a closet Melanin".
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