aufbahrung wrote:

OlivierK wrote:Thanks for posting that in jamest's thread, where it won't increase the ambient batshit levels by as much as it would elsewhere.

Do my best. I'm not a troll, though. A hundred years ahead or behind the times. But no troll.

Not a troll - from an alternate universe where nothing makes any rational sense, possibly; but not a troll.

I've stated my doubts elsewhere, but what I do know is that the global economy has never been under such a threat as this; plus that the demise of the global economy will have FAR MORE detrimental effects upon the population than coved-19.

Actually, no... you don't "know" this - you just believe it, and you believe it on poorly conceived grounds.

For example, I would bet one of my nuts you haven't actually looked into the economic impact of the two world wars on the global economy, so you're making claims about an unknown future outcome which you haven't even bothered to corroborate against the recorded historical facts.

But this is par for the course with you - all bravado, zero substance.

TopCat wrote:To this one, sure.

However, another coronavirus that was as transmissible as this one, but as lethal as, or more so than, MERS, would be a different story.

If, as a species, we don't treat this one as a dress rehearsal, we're just kicking the can down the road.

I would tend to agree. Clearly there are ramifications to global travel that we haven't fully come to terms with.

Kindle will be offline I reckon for sometime, return of the traditional book for the survivors in the first few years. If survivors continue in that state...technological memory could be lost in the socio-economic collapse, making it impossible to rebuild to the current standard of service.

Or, you know, not.

As usual, the distinction between real world discussion and what fancy can I construct in the absence of any real-world constraints appears to be impossible for some to discern.

Thommo wrote:

TopCat wrote:To this one, sure.

However, another coronavirus that was as transmissible as this one, but as lethal as, or more so than, MERS, would be a different story.

If, as a species, we don't treat this one as a dress rehearsal, we're just kicking the can down the road.

I would tend to agree. Clearly there are ramifications to global travel that we haven't fully come to terms with.

Certainly that; I was thinking more along the lines of vaccine research. I can't remember where I read it recently, but apparently there was quite a strong initial impetus for coronavirus vaccine research when SARS hit, which completely fizzled out once it became apparent that SARS itself had as well. Which in retrospect looks utterly reckless and short-termist to me.

Gangrene of the economy setting in China way already. Who am I to predict the future, though, a superforcaster? Recovery might happen for the remaining limbs of the global economy even if the workshop of the world gets embroiled in a multi-decade mess-up like before?

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-econ ... e-covid-19

Niemand.

aufbahrung wrote:Kindle will be offline I reckon for sometime, return of the traditional book for the survivors in the first few years. If survivors continue in that state...technological memory could be lost in the socio-economic collapse, making it impossible to rebuild to the current standard of service.

I've seen this tv series.

Ok, serious prediction in a thread by a poster who doesn't deserve it.

Varying levels of restriction will be in place for, say, 18 months, in many countries, until a vaccine is available. The severity of the restrictions will likely fluctuate based on spikes. A vaccine may happen quicker, or may not. The long term ramifications will be around preparedness for a similar future outbreak of a new virus. The world economy will survive, even if there's economic recessions around the world. The personal human cost will (already is) be the tragedy for many families.

The world economy, capitalism, the things jamest seems more interested in over the life of individuals? They'll be back to normal.

In summary: economies recover, dead people don't.

Austerity, on steroids. The poor and middling will pay for this.

Beatrice wrote:

Fenrir wrote:James, whether you appreciate it or not, your op is advocating the killing of grandparents to save "the economy".

For some unknown reason I find that repulsive.

That you are demonstrably ignorant of the reality of the situation and are definitely not alone in that does nothing to mollify my repulsion.

It is repulsive.

I'm in the vulnerable group that he proposes to sacrifice, but I'm way more scared of assholes like him than I am of Covid 19.

I wish that for once in his fucking life he'd stop projecting, and finally realise that we're not all complete human garbage, but there you go.

Kind of sick, isn’t it. And all the while, he doesn’t get that there but for the grace of whatever goes he. You can guarantee that if it was his wife or child on the at risk list, he’d be singing a very different tune now. Luckily for him though it’s not his wife or child, it’s you and me. We are disposable because we have nothing to do with jamest.

newolder wrote:In summary: economies recover, dead people don't.

/thread

Lots of dead civilizations around indicating economies don't always recover. Albeit some plagues reset economy with a plus - difficult to say at the moment what we are dealing with, civilization booster or killer. Got the AI robotics revolution that could leap forwards with social distancing being semi-permament....then maybe later all the humans die-off and robots take over....

aufbahrung wrote:Lots of dead civilizations around indicating economies don't always recover. ...

FIFY.

A meteor just passed close to us. The dead will soon rise. I saw that in a movie.

aufbahrung wrote:....then maybe later all the humans die-off and robots take over....

Robots can get viruses too...

Fallible wrote:Kind of sick, isn’t it. And all the while, he doesn’t get that there but for the grace of whatever goes he. You can guarantee that if it was his wife or child on the at risk list, he’d be singing a very different tune now. Luckily for him though it’s not his wife or child, it’s you and me. We are disposable because we have nothing to do with jamest.

Perhaps he can volunteer his mummy & daddy to show us old gits how to get ready...