Jordan Peterson

tuco · **#1661** by **tuco** » Jan 31, 2019 8:46 am

Nah, old folks get triggered just as well as young. They are just used to not to bitch about it.

Hermit · **#1662** by **Hermit** » Jan 31, 2019 2:03 pm

archibald wrote:If, on the other hand, he has other reasons for hating it, which we can't know from that clip, and if those reasons are a recalcitrant objection to 'men being maligned' (as is the case for quite a few, mostly male objectors) then...that's another story...

Yes, we can. Peterson characterises the ad as "an ad that criticises masculinity" (1:13). It is his only direct description of the ad, and that's why we hates it.

TopCat · **#1663** by **TopCat** » Jan 31, 2019 3:06 pm

archibald wrote:Some more background on the man who is the subject of the thread:

".....Dr. Peterson has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stuntplane.

He may have flown a hammer-head, or a roll, or both, but there is no aerobatic manoeuvre called a hammer-head roll.

At a pinch, you might see a hammer-head referred to as a hammer-head turn, and indeed the same figure is called a stall turn in the UK. But it still bears no relationship to a roll whatsoever.

Poor attention to detail, at best.

felltoearth · **#1664** by **felltoearth** » Jan 31, 2019 6:51 pm

TopCat wrote:
archibald wrote:Some more background on the man who is the subject of the thread:

".....Dr. Peterson has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stuntplane.

He may have flown a hammer-head, or a roll, or both, but there is no aerobatic manoeuvre called a hammer-head roll.

At a pinch, you might see a hammer-head referred to as a hammer-head turn, and indeed the same figure is called a stall turn in the UK. But it still bears no relationship to a roll whatsoever.

Poor attention to detail, at best.

I would say hammer head is a harsh but perhaps fair biographical description.

Matt_B · **#1665** by **Matt_B** » Jan 31, 2019 8:11 pm

It's all academic because he was almost certainly in the passenger seat anyway. After all, he never claimed to have been the pilot. :lol:

archibald · **#1666** by **archibald** » Jan 31, 2019 8:42 pm

Hermit wrote:
archibald wrote:If, on the other hand, he has other reasons for hating it, which we can't know from that clip, and if those reasons are a recalcitrant objection to 'men being maligned' (as is the case for quite a few, mostly male objectors) then...that's another story...

Yes, we can. Peterson characterises the ad as "an ad that criticises masculinity" (1:13). It is his only direct description of the ad, and that's why we hates it.

Good catch!

So....the 7 seconds of pensiveness and chin rubbing near the start...to then come out with, 'I'd rather have my corporations greedy than virtuous'...

Obfuscation in action?

That would be the uncharitable interpretation.

Even that aside, the line you quoted tells us that he's awry. I missed it.

Your catch was so good I'm almost not going to mention your Freudian slip near the end of your last sentence.

archibald · **#1667** by **archibald** » Jan 31, 2019 8:46 pm

TopCat wrote:
archibald wrote:Some more background on the man who is the subject of the thread:

".....Dr. Peterson has flown a hammer-head roll in a carbon-fiber stuntplane.

He may have flown a hammer-head, or a roll, or both, but there is no aerobatic manoeuvre called a hammer-head roll.

At a pinch, you might see a hammer-head referred to as a hammer-head turn, and indeed the same figure is called a stall turn in the UK. But it still bears no relationship to a roll whatsoever.

Poor attention to detail, at best.

TopCat · **#1668** by **TopCat** » Feb 01, 2019 2:26 pm

That is a vertical roll, which is a thing. Followed by a hammerhead, which is a thing.

Not a hammerhead roll, which is not.

TopCat · **#1669** by **TopCat** » Feb 01, 2019 2:31 pm

Matt_B wrote:It's all academic because he was almost certainly in the passenger seat anyway. After all, he never claimed to have been the pilot.

It's not remotely unlikely that he flew the manoeuvre, although he would absolutely have had an instructor with him unless he's also an experienced pilot.

I never did any solo aerobatics, but I've flown plenty of rolls and stall turns with an instructor moaning at me when I didn't do it accurately enough, which was most of the time.

Fallible · **#1670** by **Fallible** » Feb 01, 2019 2:34 pm

I’ve done about three hundred thousand 95 point turns if that helps..?

LucidFlight · **#1671** by **LucidFlight** » Feb 01, 2019 2:40 pm

Ever done a 15-point u-turn?

Fallible · **#1672** by **Fallible** » Feb 01, 2019 2:43 pm

Almost certainly. What’s that thingy called again that the car goes on? You know, it’s black and sometimes there’s lines. Anyway, I bin on them, but I can’t make the car stay on it. Then I broke something.

archibald · **#1673** by **archibald** » Feb 01, 2019 3:51 pm

Jordan (or Jorders as he lets me call him) Peterson suggested I post this. I have no idea if the driver of the car is male or female. One can't assume anything these days.

Mike_L · **#1674** by **Mike_L** » Feb 01, 2019 5:08 pm

She's got nothing on this Russian woman...! :grin:

archibald · **#1675** by **archibald** » Feb 01, 2019 5:29 pm

TopCat wrote:That is a vertical roll, which is a thing. Followed by a hammerhead, which is a thing.

Not a hammerhead roll, which is not.

Thanks.

Fallible · **#1676** by **Fallible** » Feb 01, 2019 5:37 pm

Sorry, women posters. I made that happen.

archibald · **#1677** by **archibald** » Feb 01, 2019 11:05 pm

I think it's only fair to....

felltoearth · **#1678** by **felltoearth** » Mar 20, 2019 8:24 pm

lol

Jordan Peterson: Cambridge University pulls fellowship for controversial philosopher who called women 'crazy harpy sisters' | The Independent

Jordan Peterson, 56, who has starkly divided global opinion with his views on topics such as masculinity, political correctness and the gender pay gap, had expected to take up a fellowship with the Faculty of Divinity.

However on Wednesday, the department said the offer had “been rescinded after a further review”.

Fallible · **#1679** by **Fallible** » Mar 20, 2019 9:12 pm

Woopsie.

tuco · **#1680** by **tuco** » Mar 20, 2019 10:02 pm

Jordan Peterson, consciously or not, found a hole in the market, that is for sure.

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