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Re: Kamala Harris

#41  Postby SafeAsMilk » Aug 18, 2020 11:43 pm

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felltoearth wrote:“Law and order” doesn’t end well. Haven’t you read the manuals?


There was a time when NYC wasn't the dumpster fire it is now. I would say "law and order" worked well before then.

You don't seem to know much about New York.


I have crime statistics that were trending downwards for almost thirty years on my side.

No, you really don't.

SafeAsMilk wrote:Maybe you can move to a nice law and order town in Tennessee or something, I'm sure they'd love you.


Tennessee is a fucking swamp and there's plenty of SJW rot there too.

You don't seem to know much about Tennessee either.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#42  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 18, 2020 11:46 pm

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There was a time when NYC wasn't the dumpster fire it is now. I would say "law and order" worked well before then.

You don't seem to know much about New York.


I have crime statistics that were trending downwards for almost thirty years on my side.

No, you really don't.


Fine, then explain this:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/su ... 1.691.4096

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SafeAsMilk wrote:Maybe you can move to a nice law and order town in Tennessee or something, I'm sure they'd love you.


Tennessee is a fucking swamp and there's plenty of SJW rot there too.

You don't seem to know much about Tennessee either.


I've had direct exposure to said rot by interacting with people in the Memtech community but by all means tell me more about what I don't know.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#43  Postby felltoearth » Aug 19, 2020 12:01 am

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No. No, it didn’t. I remember 80s NYC. Cops were everywhere. I wouldn’t say things were particularly tickity boo.


Violent crime was dropping steadily in NYC since 1991 but now de Blasio is the mayor and you know the rest:

https://abc7ny.com/shootings-in-nyc-har ... t/6278640/


Yeah, it’s called demographics bud. Look it up.



Chief Monahan said there are a number of reasons for the increase including bail reform, the George Floyd protests and the animosity toward police officers.

"If you listen to the city council, they want less policing. They want to defund the police, but as I look out there right now with the violence going on, it's not a good sign. We need some clarity from the city council and from the communities we serve, exactly how they want to be policed," Monahan said.


"Defund the police", yeah, well, we'll see how that works out. It's already looking fantastic.


Another non-sequitur. I guess my previous sense to sit this one out was the right move.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#44  Postby felltoearth » Aug 19, 2020 12:04 am



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Re: Kamala Harris

#45  Postby SafeAsMilk » Aug 19, 2020 12:06 am

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You don't seem to know much about New York.


I have crime statistics that were trending downwards for almost thirty years on my side.

No, you really don't.


Fine, then explain this:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/su ... 1.691.4096

Explain what about it?

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SafeAsMilk wrote:Maybe you can move to a nice law and order town in Tennessee or something, I'm sure they'd love you.


Tennessee is a fucking swamp and there's plenty of SJW rot there too.

You don't seem to know much about Tennessee either.


I've had direct exposure to said rot by interacting with people in the Memtech community but by all means tell me more about what I don't know.

You don't seem to know what your point is.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#46  Postby The_Piper » Aug 19, 2020 12:06 am

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Such willful ignorance. It used to be funny. Now it disgusts me. You are forwarding utterly cruel propaganda. Thanks charlatans, racists, and fellow wastes of breath. You woke us up.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#47  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:08 am

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Violent crime was dropping steadily in NYC since 1991 but now de Blasio is the mayor and you know the rest:

https://abc7ny.com/shootings-in-nyc-har ... t/6278640/


Yeah, it’s called demographics bud. Look it up.



Chief Monahan said there are a number of reasons for the increase including bail reform, the George Floyd protests and the animosity toward police officers.

"If you listen to the city council, they want less policing. They want to defund the police, but as I look out there right now with the violence going on, it's not a good sign. We need some clarity from the city council and from the communities we serve, exactly how they want to be policed," Monahan said.


"Defund the police", yeah, well, we'll see how that works out. It's already looking fantastic.


Another non-sequitur.


You can't just keep waving that "non-sequitur" wand while explaining nothing.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#48  Postby felltoearth » Aug 19, 2020 12:08 am

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Re: Kamala Harris

#49  Postby felltoearth » Aug 19, 2020 12:09 am

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Yeah, it’s called demographics bud. Look it up.



Chief Monahan said there are a number of reasons for the increase including bail reform, the George Floyd protests and the animosity toward police officers.

"If you listen to the city council, they want less policing. They want to defund the police, but as I look out there right now with the violence going on, it's not a good sign. We need some clarity from the city council and from the communities we serve, exactly how they want to be policed," Monahan said.


"Defund the police", yeah, well, we'll see how that works out. It's already looking fantastic.


Another non-sequitur.


You can't just keep waving that "non-sequitur" wand while explaining nothing.


You keep not addressing what people write. It’s a fair cop, matey.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#50  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:15 am

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Such willful ignorance. It used to be funny. Now it disgusts me. You are forwarding utterly cruel propaganda. Thanks charlatans, racists, and fellow wastes of breath. You woke us up.


It's not propaganda. Look at this:



See those lasers I was talking about in another thread too? Yeah. They're in this video in spades.

Here's a lovely video of a man getting kicked in the head for no reason just a few nights ago:



Then there was this from four weeks ago:



And this from two weeks ago:



Given that these sorts of people are known to be eager to commit arson I wonder what the endgame of shooting fireworks at a federal courthouse was, just as well as ripping down fencing around it!

What I'm doing is not "willful ignorance"; I'm just taking in the primary evidence of what is happening there while you continue to get all your info from garbage media that lies to you.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#51  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:16 am

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So does this mean that New York City's population of the young who are more likely to get involved with these sorts of things has suddenly exploded given the recent violent crime wave there?
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Re: Kamala Harris

#52  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:17 am

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"Defund the police", yeah, well, we'll see how that works out. It's already looking fantastic.


Another non-sequitur.


You can't just keep waving that "non-sequitur" wand while explaining nothing.


You keep not addressing what people write. It’s a fair cop, matey.


What do you call this?

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news- ... l#p2757344
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Re: Kamala Harris

#53  Postby felltoearth » Aug 19, 2020 12:22 am

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So does this mean that New York City's population of the young who are more likely to get involved with these sorts of things has suddenly exploded given the recent violent crime wave there?


No, I would say people are right pissed off and had enough. Piss off enough people and this is what you get. It’s in the manual.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#54  Postby The_Piper » Aug 19, 2020 12:26 am

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Such willful ignorance. It used to be funny. Now it disgusts me. You are forwarding utterly cruel propaganda. Thanks charlatans, racists, and fellow wastes of breath. You woke us up.


It's not propaganda. Look at this:



See those lasers I was talking about in another thread too? Yeah. They're in this video in spades.

Here's a lovely video of a man getting kicked in the head for no reason just a few nights ago:



Then there was this from four weeks ago:



And this from two weeks ago:



Given that these sorts of people are known to be eager to commit arson I wonder what the endgame of shooting fireworks at a federal courthouse was, just as well as ripping down fencing around it!

What I'm doing is not "willful ignorance"; I'm just taking in the primary evidence of what is happening there while you continue to get all your info from garbage media that lies to you.
It's not propaganda, it's cruel propaganda. You're lying to me right now just like the garbage media that you listen to. You're not trying to help me. You're trying to make me upset. I'm going to go study up on early Christian devotional ass-kissing now. You should go study up on Steven Miller. Or go burn crosses inb your backyard, or whatever else cruel motherfuckers do.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#55  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:31 am

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So does this mean that New York City's population of the young who are more likely to get involved with these sorts of things has suddenly exploded given the recent violent crime wave there?


No, I would say people are right pissed off and had enough. Piss off enough people and this is what you get. It’s in the manual.


I'm sure looting and burning stores full of luxury goods (and/or minority-owned mom-and-pop shops) is simply "the voice of the unheard" rather than just opportunism. Regardless Omar Wasow's research has shown that riots backfire so it's best if they end anyway.
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Re: Kamala Harris

#56  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:34 am

The_Piper wrote:It's not propaganda, it's cruel propaganda. You're lying to me right now just like the garbage media that you listen to. You're not trying to help me. You're trying to make me upset. I'm going to go study up on early Christian devotional ass-kissing now. You should go study up on Steven Miller. Or go burn crosses inb your backyard, or whatever else cruel motherfuckers do.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't believe your lying eyes. Don't look at the videos. Don't look at any of the evidence I've laid right out on the table for you. Just call me a KKK Nazi skinhead racist and continue stumbling blindly into the future, like a true "rational" "skeptic".
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Re: Kamala Harris

#57  Postby The_Piper » Aug 19, 2020 12:42 am

UVB-76 wrote:
The_Piper wrote:It's not propaganda, it's cruel propaganda. You're lying to me right now just like the garbage media that you listen to. You're not trying to help me. You're trying to make me upset. I'm going to go study up on early Christian devotional ass-kissing now. You should go study up on Steven Miller. Or go burn crosses inb your backyard, or whatever else cruel motherfuckers do.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't believe your lying eyes. Don't look at the videos. Don't look at any of the evidence I've laid right out on the table for you. Just call me a KKK Nazi skinhead racist and continue stumbling blindly into the future, like a true "rational" "skeptic".
Correct.
I haven't called you anything. Don't believe your lying eyes. :lol: Hey, how 'bout that health care Trump promised us? Only 170,000 dead. This is better than Obamacare?
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Re: Kamala Harris

#58  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 12:48 am

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The_Piper wrote:It's not propaganda, it's cruel propaganda. You're lying to me right now just like the garbage media that you listen to. You're not trying to help me. You're trying to make me upset. I'm going to go study up on early Christian devotional ass-kissing now. You should go study up on Steven Miller. Or go burn crosses inb your backyard, or whatever else cruel motherfuckers do.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't believe your lying eyes. Don't look at the videos. Don't look at any of the evidence I've laid right out on the table for you. Just call me a KKK Nazi skinhead racist and continue stumbling blindly into the future, like a true "rational" "skeptic".
Correct.
I haven't called you anything. Don't believe your lying eyes. :lol: Hey, how 'bout that health care Trump promised us? Only 170,000 dead. This is better than Obamacare?


You suggested that I might be into burning crosses, which is a noted activity of the KKK. These accusations being hurled at me that I am a Nazi and/or a KKK member have so far not been substantiated with a shred of evidence.

More importantly you chose to ignore the ample primary evidence that what I'm saying about the "peaceful" "protests" in Portland is true. How do you explain what's in those videos if what I'm saying isn't true? Some kind of massive performance art piece?
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Re: Kamala Harris

#59  Postby The_Piper » Aug 19, 2020 1:11 am

You said three of the "officers" were blinded by lasers. Who? Where? When? This is how you make a case. The who, the where the when. They covered this in the cartoon Scooby Doo for those of use who couldn't afford law school. Nobody working for the unidentified illegal police force was blinded by lasers. Peaceful protestors were tear-gassed. Hit wit billy clubs. Shot with rubber bullets. Which actually blinded someone. They had motion pictures of all this stuff too. What set them off was a man's neck was kneeled on for 8:46 for passing a counterfit 20 dollar bill. ETA - After a history going back not years, not decades, but centuries of horrific inhumane injustice and indignity.
I never called you a NAzi and this is the first time I typed the letters KKK in succession. You're pretty unconvincing. well, you're convincing me you're lying and forwarding cruel propaganda. Good night sir. /Seth Myers
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Re: Kamala Harris

#60  Postby UVB-76 » Aug 19, 2020 1:31 am

The_Piper wrote:You said three of the "officers" were blinded by lasers. Who? Where? When? This is how you make a case.


I'll do that as soon as you name every one of the people that the "illegal" officers allegedly beat. Deal?

The_Piper wrote:Nobody working for the unidentified illegal police force was blinded by lasers.


The article says otherwise and I'm sure the court system is going to find things in your favor regarding the "illegality" of these feds, right.

I ask again: what do you think those lasers were for?

The_Piper wrote:Peaceful protestors were tear-gassed.


"Peaceful" "protesters" ripping down federal courthouse fencing, starting fires, shining lasers in the eyes of the feds, shooting fireworks at cops and aforementioned courthouse etc.

The_Piper wrote:Hit wit billy clubs. Shot with rubber bullets. Which actually blinded someone.


That really is unfortunate but cops have still been doing pretty much the bare minimum in crowd control, which is why there have been violent riots in Portland every night for well over two months now.

The_Piper wrote:They had motion pictures of all this stuff too.


And I have videos of violent rioting too but you haven't looked at any of them.

Since we've already crossed the Godwin's law threshold in this thread, I have to say you remind me of Holocaust deniers I've interacted with. I lay out massive heaps of evidence for them, up to and including Heinrich Himmler admitting to "die Ausrottung des jüdisches Volkes" on audio and they ignore 100% of it, like you've been doing here.

In some sense it's actually worse because the Holocaust happened a long time ago and the primary audio and/or visual evidence of what happened is far more limited than what we have now with the Internet and the ubiquity of cell phones that can record video. You are living in thorough denial about things that were documented very well mere months or weeks ago in this fashion.

The_Piper wrote:What set them off was a man's neck was kneeled on for 8:46 for passing a counterfit 20 dollar bill.


George Floyd autopsy shows no signs of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation, attributes death to 'being restrained, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his system'

So now we need to beatify this man who was a violent career criminal who once pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's stomach by putting up renditions of him with literal fucking halos as if he is to be fast-tracked to sainthood. That's what people are doing for this guy who didn't even die of asphyxia, rather because he had underlying health issues and was high as a kite, speedballing on extremely high doses of meth and fentanyl. Perhaps getting arrested was the straw that broke the camel's back but there was no evidence of asphyxia.

The_Piper wrote:ETA - After a history going back not years, not decades, but centuries of horrific inhumane injustice and indignity.


Yes and that is why people throughout this country now MUST loot Gucci and Louis Vuitton stores, besiege a federal courthouse, reduce minority-owned small businesses to ash etc., all for GREAT RACIAL JUSTICE. And as we all know, rioting totally doesn't result in conservative backlashes in the polls!

The_Piper wrote:I never called you a NAzi and this is the first time I typed the letters KKK in succession.


What was that little comment about burning crosses about then? You really think I was born yesterday don't you?

The_Piper wrote:You're pretty unconvincing. well, you're convincing me you're lying and forwarding cruel propaganda


All I'm doing is posting primary evidence direct from on the ground in Portland.
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