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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#401  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 20, 2011 6:03 am

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Lucy Wiggin wrote "PinkHarrier, you claim there's a conspiracy between Hollywood Jews to spread values of diversity and multiculturalism in the name of Zionism."


I did? Like where?


Here:

You are kidding. It's all over the internet for starters. If you are truly interested google away but don't demand citations if you are not.

So I suppose Jewish (and by extension) Zionist influence on Hollywood (to mention just one media) over the last 100 years is non-existent, negligible, unimportant or another antisemite rant. Please.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#402  Postby quill » Nov 20, 2011 6:07 am

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quill wrote:Recently, I have become more aware of the presence of strong anti-Semitism in the world. However, I still find the ideal of a Jewish state - or any state created for the benefit of, or maintaining a special relationship with, one specific ethnic group - to be inescapably racist and therefore immoral.

So, no own homeland for the Kurds then?

And let's force Kosovo back into Serbia?

And so on.


I always support the right of people to a government and state of their own choosing, but I don't see the need for such rights to be derived from, or subject to, racial or religious distinctions. In other words, if Kosovo wants to be a sovereign state, that's fine. But I don't see why it needs to be a Muslim state. Why can't people simply follow their own religion and let others follow theirs? Surely history has shown that a secular state is the best kind of state.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#403  Postby pinkharrier » Nov 20, 2011 10:46 am

Gee thanks Lucy. Hardly what I wrote but then again you don't have to tell the truth or be accurate or be fair.

As far as influence in Hollywood, I wouldn't say it is a conspiracy. It's too obvious unless I've missed a lot of movies portraying Palestinian Arabs as victims.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#404  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 20, 2011 5:17 pm

pinkharrier wrote:Gee thanks Lucy. Hardly what I wrote but then again you don't have to tell the truth or be accurate or be fair.

As far as influence in Hollywood, I wouldn't say it is a conspiracy. It's too obvious unless I've missed a lot of movies portraying Palestinian Arabs as victims.


If that's the test, it's obvious there's lots of Turkish influence in Hollywood - you don't see many movies portraying Armenians as victims, do you? How about Kurds?
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#405  Postby pinkharrier » Nov 21, 2011 6:53 am

Don't see many movies portraying Turks as victims either. So no, that discounts Turkish influence. Stop being disingenuous.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#406  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 21, 2011 8:30 am

pinkharrier wrote:Don't see many movies portraying Turks as victims either. So no, that discounts Turkish influence. Stop being disingenuous.


I'm not the one claiming that the lack of Palestinians portrayed as victims in Hollywood is the result of a deliberate Jewish effort. Do you really believe that Jewish scriptwriters sit in their office and think "Hmm, the Palestinians being victims is a good story, but I won't write about it because I'm Jewish"?
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#407  Postby AndreD » Nov 21, 2011 9:44 am

pinkharrier wrote:Don't see many movies portraying Turks as victims either. So no, that discounts Turkish influence. Stop being disingenuous.


What movies outside the subject of WWII show Jews as victims? The most recent Hollywood portrayal of Israel I can think of is Munich, and that didn't exactly show Israel as a victim to be pitied - it was quite the opposite really.
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#408  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 21, 2011 9:45 am

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pinkharrier wrote:Don't see many movies portraying Turks as victims either. So no, that discounts Turkish influence. Stop being disingenuous.


What movies outside the subject of WWII show Jews as victims? The most recent Hollywood portrayal of Israel I can think of is Munich, and that didn't exactly show Israel as a victim to be pitied - it was quite the opposite really.


And the Holocaust took place before Israel was founded.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#409  Postby pinkharrier » Nov 21, 2011 11:50 am

OK. You win. There is no Jewish influence in Hollywood, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Disney, FOX, AOL, MTV. What have I forgotten?
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#410  Postby Strontium Dog » Nov 21, 2011 12:01 pm

I haven't read so much vile anti-semitic filth since Gawd was banned.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#411  Postby quill » Nov 21, 2011 12:49 pm

pinkharrier wrote:OK. You win. There is no Jewish influence in Hollywood, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Disney, FOX, AOL, MTV. What have I forgotten?


Somehow I doubt you have statistics for all of those companies' boards of directors; nor do you have insight into the political beliefs of those executives in regards to Israel and Zionism. Aren't you just assuming that they're run by Jews and that those Jews manipulate their companies for the benefit of Zionism because, you know, that's what Jews do? If so, how can you possibly avoid being considered anti-Semitic? Anyone who is not calling this anti-Semitic, at this point, is only doing so out of sheer restraint in deference to the FUA.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#412  Postby Zwaarddijk » Nov 21, 2011 1:15 pm

quill wrote:
pinkharrier wrote:OK. You win. There is no Jewish influence in Hollywood, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Disney, FOX, AOL, MTV. What have I forgotten?


Somehow I doubt you have statistics for all of those companies' boards of directors; nor do you have insight into the political beliefs of those executives in regards to Israel and Zionism. Aren't you just assuming that they're run by Jews and that those Jews manipulate their companies for the benefit of Zionism because, you know, that's what Jews do? If so, how can you possibly avoid being considered anti-Semitic? Anyone who is not calling this anti-Semitic, at this point, is only doing so out of sheer restraint in deference to the FUA.


I'll go ahead and call him an anti-Semite. Duly note that this is not meant as an insult, but as a disinterested statement of fact: pinkharrier is an antisemite.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#413  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 21, 2011 2:26 pm

pinkharrier wrote:OK. You win. There is no Jewish influence in Hollywood, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, Disney, FOX, AOL, MTV. What have I forgotten?


I'm not even sure what you consider "Jewish influence" PinkHarrier. Do Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein count as "Jewish influence"? Does every company which employ Jews is under "Jewish influence"?
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#414  Postby byofrcs » Nov 21, 2011 10:28 pm

No one expects the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#415  Postby Julia » Nov 21, 2011 10:37 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:I haven't read so much vile anti-semitic filth since Gawd was banned.


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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#416  Postby pinkharrier » Nov 21, 2011 11:38 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:I haven't read so much vile anti-semitic filth since Gawd was banned.
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Oh Brother. Even truth is no defence I guess.

Talk about devaluing the term anti-semite. Can't wait for it to end up on that pile that contains witch, heretic, revisionist, running dog lackey et al.

Try arguments instead of slurs and ganging up. Yawn.

Gawd was banned for what, BTW?
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#417  Postby andyx1205 » Nov 22, 2011 1:45 am

Bankers have a large control over the financial sector which has a large impact on the global economy.

Many bankers are Jews.

Jews rule the world.

But communism is also a Jewish conspiracy so Jews own the world and they want to overthrow themselves and establish communism.
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#418  Postby Julia » Nov 22, 2011 2:06 am

andyx1205 wrote:Bankers have a large control over the financial sector which has a large impact on the global economy.

Many bankers are Jews.

Jews rule the world.

But communism is also a Jewish conspiracy so Jews own the world and they want to overthrow themselves and establish communism.


:lol:

Sure. It has its own special logic!
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#419  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 22, 2011 8:07 am

Julia wrote:
andyx1205 wrote:Bankers have a large control over the financial sector which has a large impact on the global economy.

Many bankers are Jews.

Jews rule the world.

But communism is also a Jewish conspiracy so Jews own the world and they want to overthrow themselves and establish communism.


:lol:

Sure. It has its own special logic!


Also, when the economy is well, nobody thinks the Jews control it. If there's a financial crisis, suddenly the Jews control the economy! :lol:
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Re: Make Me a Zionist

#420  Postby Lucy Wiggin » Nov 22, 2011 8:10 am

Julia wrote:
Strontium Dog wrote:I haven't read so much vile anti-semitic filth since Gawd was banned.


:nod:


Honestly, I find it amusing, given that the Israeli media is under lots of "Jewish influence" (I guess!) and they can't seem to agree on the direction from which the sun rises in the morning. I can just imagine a bunch of Hollywood Jews dancing around a pyre in which they burn pro-Palestinian scripts...
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