OlivierK wrote:

Matt_B wrote:Yeah, I'm not keen on penalizing the good cops because the $200 POS they were issued with has a flat battery, gets broken during a scuffle, or merely conks out without them realizing it.

Let's face it, they're a technological band aid for an institutional problem. Anyone who needs a camera on them to not behave like a violent racist thug should have no place in the police force. Fix that problem, and the cameras could mostly be dispensed with.

OlivierK wrote:Compulsory bodycams, with harsh penalties for turning them off, and a presumption that accusations of misconduct are true if camera is manually turned off, or if all officers in a group have cameras off.

Just saying.

OlivierK wrote:I believe that some of them log the turn on/turn off times, and that logging doesn't happen with a malfunction. Could be wrong about that. Also, bodycams record images of hands coming to turn them off.

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Tear gas has been banned under international law from use in warfare since 1997. But US law enforcement uses it regularly on civilians.

Civil and human rights groups have long objected to the government's use of tear gas against protesters, in part because of the indiscriminate nature of the weapon. Rather than targeting specific people, the gas hurts everyone it touches, including media, children, and bystanders.
...

...
And the health impacts can be permanent and severe. The CDC warns that tear gas "may lead to long-term effects such as eye problems including scarring, glaucoma, and cataracts, and may possibly cause breathing problems such as asthma." The projectiles used to transport the irritant can maim and kill people hit by them.
...

-- Business Insider

don't get me started wrote:

Fallible wrote:Four rogue cops, surely.

I thought that a comment I read on-line somewhere recently was apposite:

'With this many bad apples, we have to wonder of there isn't something wrong with the orchard.'

Fox News Edits Video to Remove Police With Guns Drawn, Cuffing Innocent Black People
The “news” network disappeared portions of a video that showed police using aggressive tactics on the wrong people

Mike_L wrote:

...
Tear gas has been banned under international law from use in warfare since 1997. But US law enforcement uses it regularly on civilians.

Civil and human rights groups have long objected to the government's use of tear gas against protesters, in part because of the indiscriminate nature of the weapon. Rather than targeting specific people, the gas hurts everyone it touches, including media, children, and bystanders.
...

...
And the health impacts can be permanent and severe. The CDC warns that tear gas "may lead to long-term effects such as eye problems including scarring, glaucoma, and cataracts, and may possibly cause breathing problems such as asthma." The projectiles used to transport the irritant can maim and kill people hit by them.
...

-- Business Insider

What assad state of affairs! The Washington regime using chemical weapons against its own people!
Perhaps Russia should launch a few cruise missiles to take out some terror-weapon factories on US soil!

OlivierK wrote:I believe that some of them log the turn on/turn off times, and that logging doesn't happen with a malfunction. Could be wrong about that. Also, bodycams record images of hands coming to turn them off.

felltoearth wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

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Tear gas has been banned under international law from use in warfare since 1997. But US law enforcement uses it regularly on civilians.

Civil and human rights groups have long objected to the government's use of tear gas against protesters, in part because of the indiscriminate nature of the weapon. Rather than targeting specific people, the gas hurts everyone it touches, including media, children, and bystanders.
...

...
And the health impacts can be permanent and severe. The CDC warns that tear gas "may lead to long-term effects such as eye problems including scarring, glaucoma, and cataracts, and may possibly cause breathing problems such as asthma." The projectiles used to transport the irritant can maim and kill people hit by them.
...

-- Business Insider

What assad state of affairs! The Washington regime using chemical weapons against its own people!
Perhaps Russia should launch a few cruise missiles to take out some terror-weapon factories on US soil!

What is interesting in this story is that before all this went down the Dotard had a call with Putin. Maybe he was getting tips?

felltoearth wrote:Additionally, what is in turns hilarious and annoying about your posts is that you assume the criticism of Russia that is leveled at your posts means that we’re are fine and happy with the current though slipping “Leader of the Free World” and that couldn’t be further from the truth. So, maybe it’s time to drop the whataboutism and have good look at the country that is anout a notch above Saudi Arabia when it comes to even basic freedoms.

SafeAsMilk wrote:

OlivierK wrote:I believe that some of them log the turn on/turn off times, and that logging doesn't happen with a malfunction. Could be wrong about that. Also, bodycams record images of hands coming to turn them off.

I don't know why it's even possible for them to turn them off.

Fallible wrote:Can’t you leave anything alone?

Mike_L wrote:

felltoearth wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

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Tear gas has been banned under international law from use in warfare since 1997. But US law enforcement uses it regularly on civilians.

Civil and human rights groups have long objected to the government's use of tear gas against protesters, in part because of the indiscriminate nature of the weapon. Rather than targeting specific people, the gas hurts everyone it touches, including media, children, and bystanders.
...

...
And the health impacts can be permanent and severe. The CDC warns that tear gas "may lead to long-term effects such as eye problems including scarring, glaucoma, and cataracts, and may possibly cause breathing problems such as asthma." The projectiles used to transport the irritant can maim and kill people hit by them.
...

-- Business Insider

What assad state of affairs! The Washington regime using chemical weapons against its own people!
Perhaps Russia should launch a few cruise missiles to take out some terror-weapon factories on US soil!

What is interesting in this story is that before all this went down the Dotard had a call with Putin. Maybe he was getting tips?

Don't be ridiculous! How could he get "tips" from the guy who's behind the whole thing in the first place?
Oh wait! The two of them planned it all together, didn't they?

felltoearth wrote:Additionally, what is in turns hilarious and annoying about your posts is that you assume the criticism of Russia that is leveled at your posts means that we’re are fine and happy with the current though slipping “Leader of the Free World” and that couldn’t be further from the truth. So, maybe it’s time to drop the whataboutism and have good look at the country that is anout a notch above Saudi Arabia when it comes to even basic freedoms.

We're not going to see meaningful regime change happening in the US by way of the ballot box.
And if there's to be a Timber Sycamore for the looters moderate rebels, shouldn't they be getting something more effective than baked clay?

felltoearth wrote:

[Reveal] Spoiler: compressed

Mike_L wrote:

felltoearth wrote:

Mike_L wrote:


What assad state of affairs! The Washington regime using chemical weapons against its own people!
Perhaps Russia should launch a few cruise missiles to take out some terror-weapon factories on US soil!

What is interesting in this story is that before all this went down the Dotard had a call with Putin. Maybe he was getting tips?

Don't be ridiculous! How could he get "tips" from the guy who's behind the whole thing in the first place?
Oh wait! The two of them planned it all together, didn't they?

felltoearth wrote:Additionally, what is in turns hilarious and annoying about your posts is that you assume the criticism of Russia that is leveled at your posts means that we’re are fine and happy with the current though slipping “Leader of the Free World” and that couldn’t be further from the truth. So, maybe it’s time to drop the whataboutism and have good look at the country that is anout a notch above Saudi Arabia when it comes to even basic freedoms.

We're not going to see meaningful regime change happening in the US by way of the ballot box.
And if there's to be a Timber Sycamore for the looters moderate rebels, shouldn't they be getting something more effective than baked clay?

This post is so far up some asshole somewhere...

Fallible wrote:Can’t you leave anything alone?

BlackBart wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

OlivierK wrote:I believe that some of them log the turn on/turn off times, and that logging doesn't happen with a malfunction. Could be wrong about that. Also, bodycams record images of hands coming to turn them off.

I don't know why it's even possible for them to turn them off.

Toilet breaks.

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Fallible wrote:Can’t you leave anything alone?

Nope, gotta put in his hours shilling for Putin. I'm trying to imagine having so much free time that I could run around getting offended any time anyone says anything not nice about a guy who has doctors thrown out of windows.