Spearthrower wrote:

proudfootz wrote:
If you had debunked my claim that 'Mueller admitted he found insufficient evidence' you'd have something there.

I have debunked your claim - he admitted nothing of the sort...

The Office investigated whether those contacts reflected or resulted in the Campaign conspiring or coordinating with Russia in its election-interference activities. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities...

Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.

proudfootz wrote:
Mueller said so quite clearly and unambiguously:

proudfootz wrote:All you can do is screech about 'taking it out of context' like a fanatical christian apologist.

proudfootz wrote:
Enjoy your Russia-gate conspiracy theory.

The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture taken of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office's judgement, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited it's pursuit of other witnesses and information - such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be embers of the media - in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See e.g. Justice Manual 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or "taint") team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on it's ability to access relevant evidence as well - numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States.

Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated - including some associated with the Trump Campaign - deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for the long term retention of data or communications records. In such cases the Office was not able to corroborate witness states through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or shed new light on) the events described in the report.

Alan C wrote:It also means I ended up typing out the quote as below from the last part of the executive summary for volume I, which I find interesting;

Svartalf wrote:Well wasn't Sen Harris born on an Indian Reservation?

Spearthrower wrote:

Seabass wrote:Why is someone who hasn't read the Mueller report arguing about the Mueller report with someone who has read the Mueller report? I've read the damn Mueller report soup to nuts, and Spearthrower has been absolutely spot on about it. This is one of the craziest arguments I've ever seen...

Ever since it was published, I've had this discussion with proudfootz a hundred times... only not with proudfootz, but with other similarly close-minded people loudly declaring it's all a Democrat instigated hoax, who always turn out not to have bothered reading the report, complete with lengthy dismissals about why they don't need to read the report, so I was rather unfortunately well prepared to counter all the wiggles.

It's a sad indictment on the state of US politics where people will willfully ignore such corruption because their preferred media source tells them to.

"We're going to have some tanks stationed outside," Trump said during a bill signing in the Oval Office. "You've got to be pretty careful with the tanks because the roads have a tendency not to like to carry heavy tanks. So we have to put them in certain areas."

He went on to tout production of tanks at a factory in Lima, Ohio, which he visited earlier this year.

The Washington Post first reported earlier Monday that administration officials were scrambling to fulfill Trump’s request to have tanks or other armored military vehicles incorporated into a “Salute to America” event on Thursday.

During a press conference in Japan Saturday, President Trump seemed less than familiar with the terms "busing" and "Western liberalism"—two basic concepts in American political history.

When asked by reporters if he sees busing as a "viable way of integrating schools," Trump replied vaguely that, "it has been something that they’ve done for a long period of time."

"Busing" is often used as a shorthand for the integration efforts of the 1970s that sought to overcome the residential segregation that often causes de facto educational segregation by sending children to schools outside their home districts by bus. The term was back in the news after Thursday night’s Democratic primary debate, which found California Senator Kamala Harris nailing former Vice President Joe Biden on his history of opposing efforts to achieve school segregation via busing.

"There aren’t that many ways that you’re going to get people to schools," said Trump Saturday.

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chango369 wrote:Oh the days of tan suits and 57 states.

During a press conference in Japan Saturday, President Trump seemed less than familiar with the terms "busing" and "Western liberalism"—two basic concepts in American political history.

When asked by reporters if he sees busing as a "viable way of integrating schools," Trump replied vaguely that, "it has been something that they’ve done for a long period of time."

"Busing" is often used as a shorthand for the integration efforts of the 1970s that sought to overcome the residential segregation that often causes de facto educational segregation by sending children to schools outside their home districts by bus. The term was back in the news after Thursday night’s Democratic primary debate, which found California Senator Kamala Harris nailing former Vice President Joe Biden on his history of opposing efforts to achieve school segregation integration via busing.

"There aren’t that many ways that you’re going to get people to schools," said Trump Saturday.

...

Donald Trump Doesn’t Seem to Know What 'Busing' Means

What an extremely stable genius!

newolder wrote:

chango369 wrote:Oh the days of tan suits and 57 states.

During a press conference in Japan Saturday, President Trump seemed less than familiar with the terms "busing" and "Western liberalism"—two basic concepts in American political history.

When asked by reporters if he sees busing as a "viable way of integrating schools," Trump replied vaguely that, "it has been something that they’ve done for a long period of time."

"Busing" is often used as a shorthand for the integration efforts of the 1970s that sought to overcome the residential segregation that often causes de facto educational segregation by sending children to schools outside their home districts by bus. The term was back in the news after Thursday night’s Democratic primary debate, which found California Senator Kamala Harris nailing former Vice President Joe Biden on his history of opposing efforts to achieve school segregation integration via busing.

"There aren’t that many ways that you’re going to get people to schools," said Trump Saturday.

...

Donald Trump Doesn’t Seem to Know What 'Busing' Means

What an extremely stable genius!

Unless I read the shorthand definition of "busing" in that Esquire quote incorrectly...

newolder wrote:

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Unless I read the shorthand definition of "busing" in that Esquire quote incorrectly...