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#541  Postby Shrunk » Sep 14, 2014 2:22 pm

felltoearth wrote:The deadline for signing up was also the deadline for dropping out.


Yes, but you can still drop out after that, just not officially. Your name will still be on the ballot, but you tell your supporters to vote for someone else. That's what happened with Rocco Rossi in the last election. But, like I said, that would probably be too difficult for the members of Ford Nation to comprehend.
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#542  Postby Shrunk » Sep 14, 2014 8:38 pm

While we wish Ford a speedy recovery—this is not how we’d ever wish to see him leave the mayor’s office—this isn’t just about him. These decisions are about the future of Toronto, and it is staggering to see the arrogance on display here from the entire Ford family.

The hubris of Rob Ford: simply issuing a statement that he cannot compete for the mayoralty given his current medical condition while simultaneously thinking, hey, Ward 2 is totally fine. If there is a better example of the sense of ownership and entitlement Ford has always demonstrated towards his home ward, we’re hard-pressed to identify it. Rob has been skipping campaign events (and the duties of his office) more and more frequently over the past few weeks, presumably because of his tumour and the pain it has been causing him, and will have to skip many more since he is effectively bedridden. From all this he concludes not that he needs to step back from public life and tend to his health, but that he can still run, just for a slightly less demanding office.

The message Rob is sending through his actions is very simple: he does not believe that he has to compete in his home ward—he doesn’t even have to show up. He is saying that he owns those votes, and he doesn’t need to knock on anyone’s door to earn them....

With these choices, the Fords have demonstrated, once again, that they do not appreciate their supporters or the people of Toronto generally. Certainly we all knew they didn’t appreciate people who didn’t support them—though some are their constituents also—but it’s amazing to see them take for granted the people who have so devotedly supported them throughout their tumultuous, disastrous municipal careers. Or, maybe, it’s less than amazing. It depends on what you expected from the Fords. Most of us have learned to expect only the least.

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Benign or malignant? It’s impossible to know just yet. Perhaps it’s best to focus on the blessings of the present moment. Here are several unconflicted ways in which I can be happy for Rob Ford.

I’m really happy for Rob Ford that we live in a city and country with socialized medicine. With no apparent privilege given to his personal wealth and influence, he could journey from a nutritious breakfast to the emergency room to a CT scan to an ambulance to an elite care facility to receive an MRI and biopsy in a matter of hours, without having to worry about how he or his family will pay for it. I’m also relieved that if cancer patients of lesser means somehow got the impression he was jumping the queue, their general belief in Canadian fairness would soothe their concern.

I’m happy that Rob Ford has been cared for by well-trained physicians and support staff at Humber River Regional and Mount Sinai hospitals, some of whom are gay and/or people of colour and/or have real Jamaican accents. I imagine the nurses – many from parts of the world where there are few social services to speak of – are so friendly, they’ll let chums like Don Cherry show up after visiting hours with a double-double and the gift of a flashy tie.

I’m happy that Rob Ford got to spend time in emergency with alcoholics, drug addicts, people with HIV, homeless people who couldn’t find a bed in our shelter system, librarians, elites and other minorities, people who have been hit by cars while riding their bikes, victims of construction accidents, food poisoning and domestic violence. It can feel so reassuring to know you are part of a society in which everyone, no matter what their health, economic, or ethical challenges may be, is cared for with equal attention to evidence, transparency, and established protocol....

To sum up: I’m so very glad that Rob Ford benefits from the kindnesses and services he has always voted against. I absolutely wish him an end to his pain and a speedy recovery, with the willing help of our tax dollars, because that’s what I would wish for everyone.

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#543  Postby Shrunk » Sep 16, 2014 7:02 pm

Rob Ford is quoted today as saying the doctors are doing a biopsy of his lung. That does not sound good at all.
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#544  Postby Calilasseia » Sep 16, 2014 7:40 pm

Shrunk wrote:Rob Ford is quoted today as saying the doctors are doing a biopsy of his lung. That does not sound good at all.


That's serious. In the worst case scenario, he has about 2 years left.
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Re: SWAGLESS Toronto Mayor Rob Ford caught smoking crack

#545  Postby felltoearth » Sep 17, 2014 12:03 am

If it's all the way from his colon to his lungs he's fucked. As someone who has smoked crack for who knows how long, eats KFC, and drinks heavily I have little sympathy. I have no compassion for entitled, thuggish, homophobic, racist dicks. That goes for Doug the enabler too.
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Re: SWAGLESS Toronto Mayor Rob Ford caught smoking crack

#546  Postby Shrunk » Sep 17, 2014 12:11 am

felltoearth wrote:As someone who has smoked crack for who knows how long, eats KFC, and drinks heavily I have little sympathy.


Are you sure that's how you want to word that? :)
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#547  Postby THWOTH » Sep 17, 2014 9:53 am

:lol:
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Re: SWAGLESS Toronto Mayor Rob Ford caught smoking crack

#548  Postby felltoearth » Sep 17, 2014 11:34 am

Shrunk wrote:
felltoearth wrote:As someone who has smoked crack for who knows how long, eats KFC, and drinks heavily I have little sympathy.


Are you sure that's how you want to word that? :)


Heh.
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#549  Postby Skinny Puppy » Sep 17, 2014 9:59 pm

Rob Ford to undergo chemotherapy for treatment of malignant liposarcoma

Mayor Rob Ford’s tumour has been diagnosed as being a malignant liposarcoma, Dr. Zane Cohen told reporters on Thursday.
The mayor will undergo chemotherapy as part of his treatment at Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital.
Cohen said doctors believe it is a "fairly aggressive tumour."

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#550  Postby Skinny Puppy » Sep 17, 2014 10:02 pm

Shrunk wrote:Rob Ford is quoted today as saying the doctors are doing a biopsy of his lung. That does not sound good at all.


They just had a news conference and that was dismissed by his doctor as an unfounded rumour.
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#551  Postby Shrunk » Sep 17, 2014 10:34 pm

Skinny Puppy wrote:
Shrunk wrote:Rob Ford is quoted today as saying the doctors are doing a biopsy of his lung. That does not sound good at all.


They just had a news conference and that was dismissed by his doctor as an unfounded rumour.


Yeah, I should have considered the source: Rob Ford himself, as reported by his designated media sycophant Joe Warmington. That should have been enough to dismiss the story out of hand.
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#552  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Sep 17, 2014 10:46 pm

The tumour in his abdomen is BIG. I wonder if they'll excise the small one from his butt right away or not.
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#553  Postby Voltage » Sep 17, 2014 11:16 pm

Wow, I just saw the news
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Re: SWAGLESS Toronto Mayor Rob Ford caught smoking crack

#554  Postby Shrunk » Sep 18, 2014 12:06 am

Some info on liposarcoma here:

http://sarcomahelp.org/liposarcoma.html

Overall, it doesn't have that bad a prognosis relatively speaking. But the facts that Ford's tumour is in his abdomen and that they are using chemo first are less optimistic signs.
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#555  Postby Onyx8 » Sep 18, 2014 12:13 am

Plus, he is overweight and an alcoholic and drug user and is about, presumably, to go cold turkey on those things which will also have an effect on his general health which is poor to begin with.
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#556  Postby Voltage » Sep 18, 2014 12:50 am

Shrunk wrote:Some info on liposarcoma here:

http://sarcomahelp.org/liposarcoma.html

Overall, it doesn't have that bad a prognosis relatively speaking. But the facts that Ford's tumour is in his abdomen and that they are using chemo first are less optimistic signs.


There are two places of the body that is just freaking hard to fight cancer...abdomen and the brain...in his whole lifetime he battled weight issue..just watch how dude loses weight in a month
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#557  Postby Calilasseia » Sep 18, 2014 1:43 am

Shrunk wrote:Some info on liposarcoma here:

http://sarcomahelp.org/liposarcoma.html

Overall, it doesn't have that bad a prognosis relatively speaking. But the facts that Ford's tumour is in his abdomen and that they are using chemo first are less optimistic signs.


If it's a retroperineal liposarcoma, that's bad news. If it puts pressure on either of the kidneys, he's also looking at renal failure.

This is not a nice way to go. In the worst case scenario, it's lingering death by torture.

As much as one might regard his policies and past behaviour as malignant, I wouldn't wish this on another human being.
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Re: SWAGLESS Toronto Mayor Rob Ford caught smoking crack

#558  Postby Voltage » Sep 18, 2014 2:19 am

Calilasseia wrote:
Shrunk wrote:Some info on liposarcoma here:

http://sarcomahelp.org/liposarcoma.html

Overall, it doesn't have that bad a prognosis relatively speaking. But the facts that Ford's tumour is in his abdomen and that they are using chemo first are less optimistic signs.


If it's a retroperineal liposarcoma, that's bad news. If it puts pressure on either of the kidneys, he's also looking at renal failure.

This is not a nice way to go. In the worst case scenario, it's lingering death by torture.

As much as one might regard his policies and past behaviour as malignant, I wouldn't wish this on another human being.


Interesting. Question and anyone else can answer too, When they said its rare and aggressive, does it mean it's hard to tackle it? and if he gets renal failure they can just put him on dialysis. He is relatively young and he can get a transplant
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#559  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Sep 18, 2014 2:36 am

Just? Just put him on dialysis...just? Yeah no, he might be able to get dialysis to help but it is not fucking just. As for the transplant he is overweight and unwell I don't think he would be anywhere near top of the list. Not until the cancer is beaten.

I suspect you don't actually understand how badly he is about to be fucked up by the treatment to get rid of that cancer.
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#560  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Sep 18, 2014 3:36 am

They're saying 50% likelihood he'll be around in five years if the tumour can be removed. That won't happen unless chemo is highly effective. Then there will be radiation followed by surgery.

Yes, he's a fat man but he's a relatively young otherwise seemingly healthy fat man to whom the best resources in the world are available. I wish him the best of luck.
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