Think Assange claiming asylum is same as jail?
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Alan B wrote:Assange placed himself in a secure location because of America getting upset about his exposure of their 'illegal activities' and their interference with other counties 'due process' in law. If Wikileaks were not involved there would not be a problem. Assange is quite right to fear the American input to this situation regardless of the legal requirements of the UK or Sweden.
If America were not involved, this situation of Assange being 'under siege' at the Embassy would not exist.
monkeyboy wrote:
I hope you can maintain this moral position if you're ever a victim of a crime and the person suspected of doing it avoids the police and then starts whining about being persecuted if they diligently pursue their arrest.
monkeyboy wrote:What?
... if you're ever a victim of a crime...
Agi Hammerthief wrote:monkeyboy wrote:
I hope you can maintain this moral position if you're ever a victim of a crime and the person suspected of doing it avoids the police and then starts whining about being persecuted if they diligently pursue their arrest.
your scare tactics and aren't helping your position either.
I wouldn't want to roll over on fabricated charges, just because "legal"
You don't appear to have much trust on the Equadorian authorities to have looked at the matter in the last three years, to make an informed decision about keeping him in the embassy.
monkeyboy wrote:
I hope you can maintain this moral position if you're ever a victim of a crime and the person suspected of doing it avoids the police and then starts whining about being persecuted if they diligently pursue their arrest.
GrahamH wrote:monkeyboy wrote:
I hope you can maintain this moral position if you're ever a victim of a crime and the person suspected of doing it avoids the police and then starts whining about being persecuted if they diligently pursue their arrest.
Another emotional outburst.
You might also consider how you would handle being pursued by an over zealous , but oh so slow moving, prosecutor for a crime you did not commit and your life is on hold for years and your reputation is publicly shredded. No doubt you will endure it with a smile, patiently complying with whatever the prosecutor demands, for years.
GrahamH wrote:
I thump you would find that hard, even without a reasonably fear that another state is plotting to exploit your situation to further persecute you for doing your job and serving the public interest.
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monkeyboy wrote:GrahamH wrote:
I thump you would find that hard, even without a reasonably fear that another state is plotting to exploit your situation to further persecute you for doing your job and serving the public interest.
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Sorry, didn't get this edit.
America has a pretty solid extradition treaty with the UK. Why have they not asked for Assange to be picked and sent there? We had ample opportunity before he hid.
Loving your use of language BTW! Persecute for prosecute, love it.
GrahamH wrote:monkeyboy wrote:GrahamH wrote:
I thump you would find that hard, even without a reasonably fear that another state is plotting to exploit your situation to further persecute you for doing your job and serving the public interest.
I
Sorry, didn't get this edit.
America has a pretty solid extradition treaty with the UK. Why have they not asked for Assange to be picked and sent there? We had ample opportunity before he hid.
Loving your use of language BTW! Persecute for prosecute, love it.
Do you have nothing to say about the failure of the Swedish prosecutor to bring a prosecution in a fair and timely manner?
It seems absolutely disgraceful to me that they have not done what they have done with other cases and get on a plane to ask a few questions.
Do you have a view on the Gambachini case?
It becomes persecution when prosecution is grossly unfair to the innocent.
monkeyboy wrote:GrahamH wrote:monkeyboy wrote:GrahamH wrote:
I thump you would find that hard, even without a reasonably fear that another state is plotting to exploit your situation to further persecute you for doing your job and serving the public interest.
I
Sorry, didn't get this edit.
America has a pretty solid extradition treaty with the UK. Why have they not asked for Assange to be picked and sent there? We had ample opportunity before he hid.
Loving your use of language BTW! Persecute for prosecute, love it.
Do you have nothing to say about the failure of the Swedish prosecutor to bring a prosecution in a fair and timely manner?
It seems absolutely disgraceful to me that they have not done what they have done with other cases and get on a plane to ask a few questions.
And then if they then wish to arrest him and bring him to trial? How does that work?
Yes this has dragged on. Many cases do where there are multiple legal challenges. Many cases over here don't make it to court for well over a year and that is with the accused locked up on remand and readily accessible.
This case is happening in two different jurisdictions, with multiple legal avenues having been pursued extensively and everything put on hold by Assange sitting in an Embassy.
Of course that's all the Swedish prosecutor's fault.Do you have a view on the Gambachini case?
Simply, no. I had no interest in that case. If it's relevant here, perhaps I shall have a look.It becomes persecution when prosecution is grossly unfair to the innocent.
That doesn't make sense. You know he's innocent? Have you explained this to his legal team? I'm sure he'd be eternally grateful.
GrahamH wrote:monkeyboy wrote:GrahamH wrote:monkeyboy wrote:
Sorry, didn't get this edit.
America has a pretty solid extradition treaty with the UK. Why have they not asked for Assange to be picked and sent there? We had ample opportunity before he hid.
Loving your use of language BTW! Persecute for prosecute, love it.
Do you have nothing to say about the failure of the Swedish prosecutor to bring a prosecution in a fair and timely manner?
It seems absolutely disgraceful to me that they have not done what they have done with other cases and get on a plane to ask a few questions.
And then if they then wish to arrest him and bring him to trial? How does that work?
Yes this has dragged on. Many cases do where there are multiple legal challenges. Many cases over here don't make it to court for well over a year and that is with the accused locked up on remand and readily accessible.
This case is happening in two different jurisdictions, with multiple legal avenues having been pursued extensively and everything put on hold by Assange sitting in an Embassy.
Of course that's all the Swedish prosecutor's fault.Do you have a view on the Gambachini case?
Simply, no. I had no interest in that case. If it's relevant here, perhaps I shall have a look.It becomes persecution when prosecution is grossly unfair to the innocent.
That doesn't make sense. You know he's innocent? Have you explained this to his legal team? I'm sure he'd be eternally grateful.
He is presumed incident until proven guilty. You don't like that, do you?
I notice you didn't answer my previous question but there was another question put to you earlier in the thread that I didn't see a reply to; you do understand the concept of asylum?
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