ggorlock wrote:Spinozasgalt wrote:ggorlock wrote:Gay pride was supposed to simply be something to show other people that it's ok to be gay (pardon the pun ). Most folks don't have an issue with that. But now it's become a disgusting embarrassment.
No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.
And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.
Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.
Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more.
Because their initial homophobia was o-so-reasonable and would never lead to harm, eh?
ggorlock wrote: And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.
But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.
You're not pointing out anything. You're just making empty claims and complaining when people don't accept those claims as you made them and see them.