ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:Gay pride was supposed to simply be something to show other people that it's ok to be gay (pardon the pun ). Most folks don't have an issue with that. But now it's become a disgusting embarrassment.

No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.

And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.

Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more.

ggorlock wrote: And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:Gay pride was supposed to simply be something to show other people that it's ok to be gay (pardon the pun ). Most folks don't have an issue with that. But now it's become a disgusting embarrassment.

No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.

And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.

Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more. And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

ggorlock wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

ggorlock wrote:Calling gay pride parades disgusting is not a sign of homophobia. It's a sign of seeing degeneracy and foolishness and considering it disgusting.

Calling black people disgusting isn't racism. It's a sign of seeing degeneracy and foolishness and considering it disgusting.

Calling gay pride parades disgusting isn't the same as calling gay people disgusting, you disingenuous person.

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:
No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.

And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.

Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more. And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

Ok then carry on waving dildos and crawling on the floor in leather costumes. That'll help. Don't bother simply walking down the street in respectable attire with a rainbow flag so that maybe some homophobes will think to themselves "Hey, you know, these people are just like me. Normal, regular people. Maybe I should rethink my views" Oh no, that's too hard.

ggorlock wrote:Dude, you may not like what I'm saying but I'm actually trying to help you, believe it or not.

ggorlock wrote: I'm telling you that these ridiculous events will make homophobes despise you more. Nothing would make them happier than to confirm in their minds their belief that you're a joke. But you don't want to see that, because you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

ggorlock wrote:Go on. Call me a homophobe.

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

ggorlock wrote:Calling gay pride parades disgusting is not a sign of homophobia. It's a sign of seeing degeneracy and foolishness and considering it disgusting.

Calling black people disgusting isn't racism. It's a sign of seeing degeneracy and foolishness and considering it disgusting.

Calling gay pride parades disgusting isn't the same as calling gay people disgusting, you disingenuous person.

Another vapid accusation.
You're calling an event that celebrates the existence and equal rights of gay people disgusting. Ergo, by logical extension you're calling the existence and equal rights of gay people disgusting. Which is homophobic.

ggorlock wrote:Sorry I can't view images.

ggorlock wrote:Why don't you show me how degenerate it is. Then get ready for some truly sick images from gay pride that anyone could google

ggorlock wrote:

NineBerry wrote:Posting images from googling is not "talking to each other".

An image speaks a thousand words my friend. Like I say, nice try. At this point it's clear that you know precisely what I'm talking about. You know very well that I could very easily show you images that any normal person would consider totally inappropriate. You don't want to show me carnival images because you know that I'll show something far worse.

ggorlock wrote:Dishonest, cowardly lefties.

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:
No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.

And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.

Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more. And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

Ok then carry on waving dildos and crawling on the floor in leather costumes. That'll help. Don't bother simply walking down the street in respectable attire with a rainbow flag so that maybe some homophobes will think to themselves "Hey, you know, these people are just like me. Normal, regular people. Maybe I should rethink my views" Oh no, that's too hard.

Dude, you may not like what I'm saying but I'm actually trying to help you, believe it or not. I'm telling you that these ridiculous events will make homophobes despise you more. Nothing would make them happier than to confirm in their minds their belief that you're a joke. But you don't want to see that, because you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

Go on. Call me a homophobe.

ggorlock wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

Calling black people disgusting isn't racism. It's a sign of seeing degeneracy and foolishness and considering it disgusting.

Calling gay pride parades disgusting isn't the same as calling gay people disgusting, you disingenuous person.

Another vapid accusation.
You're calling an event that celebrates the existence and equal rights of gay people disgusting. Ergo, by logical extension you're calling the existence and equal rights of gay people disgusting. Which is homophobic.

Spinozasgalt's description of what gay pride is about doesn't match yours.

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:
No, it was not. Pride started precisely as the opposite of that sort of respectability politics. No "kink" at Pride just means no Pride, because the goalposts for what "kink" is move and move until trans people can't be there and we can't even kiss and hold hands when children are around. We are the kink to conservatives and religious nuts. We are the depravity.

And plenty of people have a problem with us being gay. I can't hold hands with a guy in many places because there's a significant risk someone will attack us or harass us.

Fuck respectability. If you don't want to see pups and leather daddies and drag, don't come to Pride.

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more. And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

Ok then carry on waving dildos and crawling on the floor in leather costumes. That'll help. Don't bother simply walking down the street in respectable attire with a rainbow flag so that maybe some homophobes will think to themselves "Hey, you know, these people are just like me. Normal, regular people. Maybe I should rethink my views" Oh no, that's too hard.

Dude, you may not like what I'm saying but I'm actually trying to help you, believe it or not. I'm telling you that these ridiculous events will make homophobes despise you more. Nothing would make them happier than to confirm in their minds their belief that you're a joke. But you don't want to see that, because you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

Go on. Call me a homophobe.

Hermit wrote:

ggorlock wrote:Sorry I can't view images.

ggorlock wrote:Why don't you show me how degenerate it is. Then get ready for some truly sick images from gay pride that anyone could google

ggorlock wrote:

NineBerry wrote:Posting images from googling is not "talking to each other".

An image speaks a thousand words my friend. Like I say, nice try. At this point it's clear that you know precisely what I'm talking about. You know very well that I could very easily show you images that any normal person would consider totally inappropriate. You don't want to show me carnival images because you know that I'll show something far worse.

ggorlock wrote:Dishonest, cowardly lefties.

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Ok fine. Fuck respectability. But don't be surprised when real homophobes look at you and see you in a way that will make them hate you more. And don't think for one moment that only straight people could see it this way. There are plenty of gay people who think it's embarrassing and damaging in terms of reputation. You're really not helping yourselves. Remember when gays used to complain about being stereotyped? Yeah me too.

But sure, I must be the homophobe for pointing out that your gay pride parades aren't helping your image.

Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

Ok then carry on waving dildos and crawling on the floor in leather costumes. That'll help. Don't bother simply walking down the street in respectable attire with a rainbow flag so that maybe some homophobes will think to themselves "Hey, you know, these people are just like me. Normal, regular people. Maybe I should rethink my views" Oh no, that's too hard.

Dude, you may not like what I'm saying but I'm actually trying to help you, believe it or not. I'm telling you that these ridiculous events will make homophobes despise you more. Nothing would make them happier than to confirm in their minds their belief that you're a joke. But you don't want to see that, because you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

Go on. Call me a homophobe.

Lol. Your last post was a threat. The same threat I've heard all my life: don't show who you are or someone's gonna hurt ya, not me but someone will.

I don't need your help, sweetie. I live here, you're just visiting.

SafeAsMilk wrote:You know, reasoning like "I'm trying to help so that homophobes will like you," as if gay people were the problem in that equation.

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

ggorlock wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:
Aha, heard this before. It's actually our fault people stereotype us, harass us, bash us, kill us. If I just wouldn't hold hands with my boyfriend, people wouldn't yell "faggots" in the street, either. I've just gotta stop rubbing it in all your faces.

Ok then carry on waving dildos and crawling on the floor in leather costumes. That'll help. Don't bother simply walking down the street in respectable attire with a rainbow flag so that maybe some homophobes will think to themselves "Hey, you know, these people are just like me. Normal, regular people. Maybe I should rethink my views" Oh no, that's too hard.

Dude, you may not like what I'm saying but I'm actually trying to help you, believe it or not. I'm telling you that these ridiculous events will make homophobes despise you more. Nothing would make them happier than to confirm in their minds their belief that you're a joke. But you don't want to see that, because you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

Go on. Call me a homophobe.

Lol. Your last post was a threat. The same threat I've heard all my life: don't show who you are or someone's gonna hurt ya, not me but someone will.

I don't need your help, sweetie. I live here, you're just visiting.

No problem darling xxx. It's up to you. But your attempts at labeling me as homophobic or threatening are dumb. Keep playing the poor victim and don't bother exercising introspection or responsibility. Oh yes that's right. You are partly responsible for homophobia.

ggorlock wrote:or threatening

NineBerry wrote:-"Son, why are there all those images of naked men at pride parades on your computer?"
-"Oh, I was just collecting them to show to gay people online to convince them how disgusting they are!"

NineBerry wrote:-"Son, why are there all those images of naked men at pride parades on your computer?"
-"Oh, I was just collecting them to show to gay people online to convince them how disgusting they are!"