ggorlock wrote:Ok ok, fine, let's have a discussion. You twisted my arm.
Bullshit. The only one making things difficult has been you.
ggorlock wrote: But remember this one is just a test to see whether or not I'll get banned for expressing an opinion that goes against the holy church of leftism. If it goes well we'll roll it out to other discussions. If I get banned, then I guess I'll be seeing you
, and my point will have been proven. Let's do this.
Oh the poor martyr.....
ggorlock wrote:I think gay pride is a disgusting, degenerate freakshow. I'm not saying every single one of them is,
Then you're contradicting yourself, congrats.
ggorlock wrote:but I've seen many photos of these events in which gays are parading around wearing almost nothing, and in some cases nothing. I've seen them playing with dildos, whips, and other sexual paraphernalia.
Here's the bit where you need to demonstrate that:
A. This is a common occurrence.
and more importantly,
B. How that is harmful.
ggorlock wrote:Have any of you heard of Desmond Is Amazing? I won't go into details of what I think of what's going on there, but I've seen video footage of him and a couple of other kids dancing in a sexual way, encouraged by participants of the event.
Since you once again, offer nothing but vague and unsubstantiated assertions, I see no reason to take your claims seriously.
ggorlock wrote:Gay pride was supposed to simply be something to show other people that it's ok to be gay (pardon the pun
).
That's not a pun.
ggorlock wrote:Most folks don't have an issue with that. But now it's become a disgusting embarrassment.
Except it's not according to you, except when it is. Make up your mind.
ggorlock wrote:Totally inappropriate.
Demonstrate and argue, don't just assert.
ggorlock wrote:and it makes gays look foolish.
The only thing all gay people have in common is attraction to the same gender.
What you're doing is arguing that English soccer hooligans make all English people or all soccer supporters look foolish.
ggorlock wrote: I remember a time when gays seemed to dislike being stereotyped, but this gay pride stuff does just that.
Only to the ignorant and uninformed.
ggorlock wrote:I've read enough of this forum to know that most of you are at least reasonably intelligent.
Given the lack of intellectual and rational rigour in your posts so far, I see no reason to value your judgement on anyone's intelligence.
ggorlock wrote: So if anyone calls me a homophobe for saying this, then I can only conclude that you're being disingenuous.
QED.
To be disingenuous is to be dishonest. There's nothing dishonest about stating your views, or calling a spade a spade.
ggorlock wrote:No normal person would disagree with any of what I've said.
And that's a facile No True Scotsman fallacy, demonstrating again that you're in no position to judge intelligence.
ggorlock wrote: These are perfectly reasonable views.
Since you failed to present even a single sound argument, let alone evidence, they are anything but reasonable.
ggorlock wrote: And don't give me any of this "not all...not all".
And here you go again, contradicting yourself.
ggorlock wrote: I never said all.
Except that you did:
I think gay pride is a disgusting, degenerate freakshow.
That you then proceeded to contradict yourself in the very next sentence is your problem, not anyone else's.
ggorlock wrote: It's one thing to have fun in public and to assert that your sexuality is ok, but it's another to turn the streets into a sex joint.
Citation missing.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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