What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#81  Postby hackenslash » Jul 10, 2013 6:47 pm

If only there were a helpful diagram, or something...
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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#82  Postby surreptitious57 » Jul 10, 2013 7:57 pm


Agnostic Atheism : Non Absolute Non Belief

Gnostic Atheism : Absolute Non Belief

Agnostic Theism : Non Absolute Belief

Gnostic Theism : Absolute Belief
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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#83  Postby HughMcB » Jul 10, 2013 8:12 pm

Trolling be too obvious.

I expect a little more subtlety from the Edgar Allans.
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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#84  Postby hackenslash » Jul 10, 2013 9:55 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:
Agnostic Atheism : Doesn't believe, and thinks that knowledge is not possible.

Gnostic Atheism : Doesn't believe, and thinks that knowledge is possible.

Agnostic Theism : Believes, and thinks that knowledge is not possible.

Gnostic Theism : Believes, and thinks that knowledge is possible.


FIFY.
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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#85  Postby ADParker » Jul 10, 2013 11:16 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
theropod wrote:How about the statement, "I see no reason to believe in a deity" ?

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A good example.

Does the deity exist?

[Working from the statement given by theropod]

I see no reason to believe it does.
It may be that it does but I am unware of any reasons to recognize this fact.
It may be that it does not and I see no reason to think it does.
I may even think that it does not exist.
Or I may, in seeing no reason to think it does, hold no opinion on its existence or no existence.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Just because you say I dont want to believe does that make it not exist?

Nothing in that statement even hints at what anyone wants. And nor does it have any bearing on what happens to be the reality in this case. It may be that while one sees no reason to believe something exists; it may in fact exist or it may not.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Where is the question of evidence?

There is none. What atheism is and likewise that statement are independent on the means one uses to reach the position one is currently in.
One may believe that gods exist, believe that they don't, or believe neither way. And how they come to those positions could be anything at all; assessment of evidence, "Faith", wishful thinking, delusional fantasy, mental illness...Whatever the case; one is still either a theist or atheist, either believes in gods, believes in the non existence of gods, or has no belief as to the existence or non existence of gods.

Scot Dutchy wrote: Your negative belief is as valid as a theist's positive belief. No evidence no argument.

The author of the statement (and I have to assume this is the "You" that you are talking to) states no "negative belief" in that statement, but merely states that he sees no reason to take the "positive belief" position. No reference was made on the "negative belief" position at all.
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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

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Re: What is the atheist definition of "human rights"?

#87  Postby Peter Brown » Jul 15, 2013 10:50 am

The only human right that applies in this thread is the freedom from religion and especially the freedom from the religious in our daily lives!
By all means get more confused and frustrated by your contradictory holy books, but confine this physical and mental cruelty to yourself.
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