An omnipotent God would have free will, if he wanted to.

scott1328 wrote:An omnipotent God would have free will, if he wanted to.

You are clearly not familiar with my definition of God.

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:Destroyer ... whatever you are arguing for does it have free will? If so by what mechanism does it have free will?
Thanks

No. God does not have free will.

OK ... God does not have free will fair enough ... do [some] patterns of matter have free will? If so what is the mechanism?

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:Destroyer ... whatever you are arguing for does it have free will? If so by what mechanism does it have free will?
Thanks

No. God does not have free will.

OK ... God does not have free will fair enough ... do [some] patterns of matter have free will? If so what is the mechanism?

There is no free will, full stop.

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:Destroyer ... whatever you are arguing for does it have free will? If so by what mechanism does it have free will?
Thanks

No. God does not have free will.

OK ... God does not have free will fair enough ... do [some] patterns of matter have free will? If so what is the mechanism?

There is no free will, full stop.

Thank you for this clear statement.

And what are your arguments for this position?

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

No. God does not have free will.

OK ... God does not have free will fair enough ... do [some] patterns of matter have free will? If so what is the mechanism?

There is no free will, full stop.

Thank you for this clear statement.

And what are your arguments for this position?

God is a unique/solitary entity. He is therefore confined to loneliness. He possesses no capacity to engage freely in a state of interactions and combinations.

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:
OK ... God does not have free will fair enough ... do [some] patterns of matter have free will? If so what is the mechanism?

There is no free will, full stop.

Thank you for this clear statement.

And what are your arguments for this position?

God is a unique/solitary entity. He is therefore confined to loneliness. He possesses no capacity to engage freely in a state of interactions and combinations.

Frankly I don't care about God, I was thinking about the more accessible bits of the universe.

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:

romansh wrote:

Destroyer wrote:
There is no free will, full stop.

Thank you for this clear statement.

And what are your arguments for this position?

God is a unique/solitary entity. He is therefore confined to loneliness. He possesses no capacity to engage freely in a state of interactions and combinations.

Frankly I don't care about God, I was thinking about the more accessible bits of the universe.

If the original Source of consciousness exists in a state of confinement then where else in the Universe do you expect to encounter freedom?

Destroyer wrote:
If the original Source of consciousness exists in a state of confinement then where else in the Universe do you expect to encounter freedom?

This is like watching a dog barking at a tree because the branches are creaking in the wind. "Help! Somebody's trapped in there and is crying to get out!"

The Bran Flakes I had for breakfast are currently in a state of confinement. Just moments ago, they were free to roam the milky universe of my bowl.

LucidFlight wrote:The Bran Flakes I had for breakfast are currently in a state of confinement. Just moments ago, they were free to roam the milky universe of my bowl.

Is that exchanging one confinement for another with added 'e'?

Arnold Layne wrote:I have still made a choice to carry on reading.

I can accept that that is both possible and true.

scott1328 wrote:An omnipotent God would have free will, if he wanted to.

That's debatable.

The very notion of omnipotence raises paradoxes.

An omnipotent God is immune to paradox

Destroyer wrote:
God is a unique/solitary entity. He is therefore confined to loneliness. He possesses no capacity to engage freely in a state of interactions and combinations.

Wtf do you think is happening here then? Is your God, which you claim not be omnipotent, also not omnipresent?

At this rate you'll be claiming that God works at Tesco in Milton Keynes.

scott1328 wrote:An omnipotent God is immune to paradox

Even William Lane Craig doesn't think that, nor did Thomas Aquinas or Alvin Plantigna. What would you say to their arguments?

So fuckin' what?

jamest wrote:So fuckin' what?

Fair enough. It probably is irrelevant to people who are content to just pull bare assertions out of their arses.

Which at least means you don't have to bother with it.

archibald wrote:

jamest wrote:So fuckin' what?

Fair enough. It probably is irrelevant to people who are content to just pull bland assertions out of their arses.

Which at least means you don't have to bother with it.

It's not the authority/popularity of a person which lends weight to their argument, you should know that. Further, I've had rational discussions about omnipotence many times to the point where I am certain that omnipotence leads to no paradox.

jamest wrote:It's not the authority/popularity of a person which lends weight to their argument, you should know that.

I do know it. And?

Oh I see. Someone gets cited and someone else gets to claim it's an argument from authority. Yes, I remember the first time I saw that straw man. Primary school, I think it was.

jamest wrote: Further, I've had rational discussions about omnipotence many times to the point where I am certain that omnipotence leads to no paradox.

Good for you. I would say 'the floor is all yours' but you talk so much shite I'm not sure I want to read it.

Also, I note your unsubstantiated claim to ever have had a rational discussion.