We have made anew film in our series "Before the big bang".
The link is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM47acQ7pEQ‎
tinyurl.com/q2bjs6g
This film is centred around an interview with Sir Roger Penrose discussing his new comsological model:CCC.
The aim of the film is to explain the model to the layman and answer some of his critics.
One section though that may be of extra relevance here is that William Lane Criag appears to have considerbaly misrepresented what the model says in order, I guess, to fit in with his Kalam argument.
This is discussed by Sir Roger about 20 mins into the film.
We hope WLC gets exposed on this, if you agree please tweet the link, like it on youtube or send it your favourite blogger. It would be a shame if this not pointed out to the public especially as Criag has a big debate with atheist cosmologist Sean Caroll coming up.

Excellent stuff, as always.

Bookmarking so I can have a look later, having enjoyed your previous videos very much.

Nice video - I've also subscribed to your youtube channel.

WLC in misrepresenting science shocker. Who'd have thought it?

One question, how can time have begun (to exist) in any meaningful sense?

Well there needs to be a time before time when there was no time from which point after time began.

This vid explains it.

Animavore wrote:This vid explains it.

Stil want a serious answer to my question though.

I'm not sure you'll get one. I can't think of it in any meaningful way either. And not just time, anything else. Everywhere I look I see a continuum with no beginnings or ends.

Animavore wrote:I'm not sure you'll get one. I can't think of it in any meaningful way either. And not just time, anything else. Everywhere I look I see a continuum with no beginnings or ends.

My point exactly.

Even if there is a beginning, I don't understand making the terminator something which exists outside of time (whatever that means) and making it atemporal. Putting it outside of time and space puts it outside of causality so trying to grasp how it could itself be a cause, the cause, makes my brain hiccup.

I guess this is where, with a sleight of hand, some people turn a how question into a why question and leave the exact why (motive) up to ways that are rather mysterious. But I'm sure that's what they call a "bait 'n' switch", is it?

Thanks for posting the video. Really enjoyed it.

time is the ruler with which we measure duration.

Animavore wrote:I'm not sure you'll get one. I can't think of it in any meaningful way either. And not just time, anything else. Everywhere I look I see a continuum with no beginnings or ends.

Yes. All of the apologetic arguments that attempt to disprove the possibility of an actual infinity rely on the difficulty one has in forming a mental concept of something that is infinite. However, I find it, if anything, more difficult to imagine something like a beginning to time, or a "nothing" that exists until "something" is created.

Animavore wrote:This vid explains it.

This woman is fucking hilarious.

"...running right up through my middle bits..."

Brilliant, just like the Merilian Line.

You mis-spelt Marillion...

hackenslash wrote:You mis-spelt Marillion...

Apologies, I shall go and flagellate my middle bits forthwith. Back momentarily.