Teague wrote:I should be clearer - it needs to be paid for but with no profit in mind. So like UHS work now but as far as drugs being made, there shouldn't be a profit on that at all. Government can supply drugs and the research around it. We could be paying more into research as well and making health one of the main pillars of gov't - one that sees only serious contemplation on how to make it work better with no access for making a profit.

I'm broadly in agreement with all of this but, as per my earlier devils advocate comments about healthcare professional profiting, the creep of socialisation is inevitably going to butt heads with companies wanting to make a profit from what they provide and looking at what the private sector generates for itself by way of profit. I think that there is a point where the ability of Government funding for services bleeds off and no longer provides an adequate buffer from the competitiveness of the private sector. Unless you go down the route of everything being controlled by the state, which is an idea that is still a very tough sell in our world of late stage capitalism.

Sendraks wrote:

Teague wrote:I should be clearer - it needs to be paid for but with no profit in mind. So like UHS work now but as far as drugs being made, there shouldn't be a profit on that at all. Government can supply drugs and the research around it. We could be paying more into research as well and making health one of the main pillars of gov't - one that sees only serious contemplation on how to make it work better with no access for making a profit.

I'm broadly in agreement with all of this but, as per my earlier devils advocate comments about healthcare professional profiting, the creep of socialisation is inevitably going to butt heads with companies wanting to make a profit from what they provide and looking at what the private sector generates for itself by way of profit. I think that there is a point where the ability of Government funding for services bleeds off and no longer provides an adequate buffer from the competitiveness of the private sector. Unless you go down the route of everything being controlled by the state, which is an idea that is still a very tough sell in our world of late stage capitalism.

Well it certainly needs a change in attitudes and maybe that's starting to happen with the new generations. It's a pretty obvious thing you don't make a profit off certain things which is down to being a decent human being. We also need to recognise the mental illness of CEO's and their ilk and treat their endless greed.

Something that isn't going to happen now but something we should be getting people to think about. It's unintelligent to have a world where we don't look to make life better for everyone. We're at an age now where being uninformed is unacceptable given the information available through our phones. So attitudes need to be worked on where we understand what drags us back and how to get around that,

We're meant to be an intelligent species - so far we're proving ourselves to be as dumb (or dumber) than any other species here.