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Re: Quantum Jumping

#41  Postby Arcanyn » Mar 13, 2011 5:15 pm

I don't think you could win the lottery that way if the many world's interpretation is true. Whatever numbers are randomly chosen, a person will survive until the lottery is drawn. If at this point, it is determined that the wrong numbers were chosen, there are still possible worlds in which the person survives - there is a tiny chance that when a bullet is fired at a person's head, a tiny piece of the bullet will quantum tunnel through their head without harming them (with the rest of the bullet causing major but non-fatal brain damage). This is far, far more probable than the entire bullet quantum tunneling through their head and leaving them unscathed - their chances of ending up in that world are negligible. So the most likely outcome would be that the person will find themselves in a world in which they sustain catastrophic brain damage, but just enough of the bullet passes through them harmlessly that they avoid dying from it.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#42  Postby Paul Almond » Mar 13, 2011 5:47 pm

Arcanyn wrote:I don't think you could win the lottery that way if the many world's interpretation is true. Whatever numbers are randomly chosen, a person will survive until the lottery is drawn. If at this point, it is determined that the wrong numbers were chosen, there are still possible worlds in which the person survives - there is a tiny chance that when a bullet is fired at a person's head, a tiny piece of the bullet will quantum tunnel through their head without harming them (with the rest of the bullet causing major but non-fatal brain damage). This is far, far more probable than the entire bullet quantum tunneling through their head and leaving them unscathed - their chances of ending up in that world are negligible. So the most likely outcome would be that the person will find themselves in a world in which they sustain catastrophic brain damage, but just enough of the bullet passes through them harmlessly that they avoid dying from it.

Hang on. Wouldn't such futures be a tiny proportion of the futures in which you are alive? Let's say this is the Uk lottery, with a chance of winning the main prize of 1 in 14 million. That suggests that out of all the possible futures you could have, some of them are from the group of one in 14 million situations in which you win, and some are from the group of situations in which you lose, but some freak event saves you, but in a horribly maimed way. Given that the latter would be probably less likely to happen to you than the 1 in 14 million chance of a lottery win, should we not expect that such futures will actually be rare, in comparison to the ones in which you simply won the lottery? Winning the lottery seems, to me, here, to be the most likely way of staying alive.

I am not saying that the concept of quantum suicide is valid: the whole thing would require many-worlds to be true, and even if it is, the idea that you can disregard the futures in which you die is controversial, of course, but I do think that if MWI is true, the futures in which you survived due to freak events would be much less common that ones in which you survived due to lottery wins: the lottery win is not all that improbable. That does not necessarily make doing this a sensible lifestyle choice.

Incidentally, I actually wrote some articles on this kind of thing recently, though I did not propose that anyone should actually do it, and do not propose that. It would be a silly thing to do.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#43  Postby iamthereforeithink » Mar 13, 2011 6:10 pm

Paul Almond wrote:Hang on. Wouldn't such futures be a tiny proportion of the futures in which you are alive? Let's say this is the Uk lottery, with a chance of winning the main prize of 1 in 14 million. That suggests that out of all the possible futures you could have, some of them are from the group of one in 14 million situations in which you win, and some are from the group of situations in which you lose, but some freak event saves you, but in a horribly maimed way. Given that the latter would be probably less likely to happen to you than the 1 in 14 million chance of a lottery win, should we not expect that such futures will actually be rare, in comparison to the ones in which you simply won the lottery? Winning the lottery seems, to me, here, to be the most likely way of staying alive.


I think you are correct. Quantum tunneling of the type required will almost never happen. On the other hand, for every 14 million futures in which you don't win the lottery, there is one in which you do. 14 million < (close to infinity).

Going back to the OP, if there was a way for different parallel universes to interact with each other, we would have evidentially proved MWI by now.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#44  Postby Skyforger » Mar 14, 2011 3:46 am

Why hasn't a self from another universe who bought into this bullshit jumped into me and explained this nonsense to me? Or did he steal from me my ability to be a billionaire? I'm a fucking asshole if I did, I probably stole my singing voice too. In fact, I lost an hour last night, I bet that was me stealing my talents (my previous working theory was that I was abducted by aliens, but this new evidence bears significant light on a new possibility that fully explains it).

Also, this scheme is brilliant. If anyone sues him and claims that his whatever doesn't work, he can explain it away as "You jumped to the self where you were a billionaire, I never claimed that your old identity ceased to exist. You are the part of you that was left behind, forever to be the loser that you are, sorry."
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#45  Postby iamthereforeithink » Mar 14, 2011 4:30 am

Skyforger wrote:In fact, I lost an hour last night...


Shit, that happened to me too, and I was in a different universe than everyone else for 5 full hours, until the universe of my wristwatch merged with that of my computer and my phone :shock:
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#46  Postby Think Floyd » Mar 14, 2011 4:37 am

Quantum Jumping: The shortest distance you'll ever travel.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#47  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Mar 14, 2011 4:37 am

I tried quantum jumping and all I got was the mole on my left butt cheek moved to my right butt cheek. :(
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#48  Postby Arcanyn » Mar 14, 2011 7:53 am

Paul Almond wrote:
Arcanyn wrote:I don't think you could win the lottery that way if the many world's interpretation is true. Whatever numbers are randomly chosen, a person will survive until the lottery is drawn. If at this point, it is determined that the wrong numbers were chosen, there are still possible worlds in which the person survives - there is a tiny chance that when a bullet is fired at a person's head, a tiny piece of the bullet will quantum tunnel through their head without harming them (with the rest of the bullet causing major but non-fatal brain damage). This is far, far more probable than the entire bullet quantum tunneling through their head and leaving them unscathed - their chances of ending up in that world are negligible. So the most likely outcome would be that the person will find themselves in a world in which they sustain catastrophic brain damage, but just enough of the bullet passes through them harmlessly that they avoid dying from it.

Hang on. Wouldn't such futures be a tiny proportion of the futures in which you are alive? Let's say this is the Uk lottery, with a chance of winning the main prize of 1 in 14 million. That suggests that out of all the possible futures you could have, some of them are from the group of one in 14 million situations in which you win, and some are from the group of situations in which you lose, but some freak event saves you, but in a horribly maimed way. Given that the latter would be probably less likely to happen to you than the 1 in 14 million chance of a lottery win, should we not expect that such futures will actually be rare, in comparison to the ones in which you simply won the lottery? Winning the lottery seems, to me, here, to be the most likely way of staying alive.

I am not saying that the concept of quantum suicide is valid: the whole thing would require many-worlds to be true, and even if it is, the idea that you can disregard the futures in which you die is controversial, of course, but I do think that if MWI is true, the futures in which you survived due to freak events would be much less common that ones in which you survived due to lottery wins: the lottery win is not all that improbable. That does not necessarily make doing this a sensible lifestyle choice.

Incidentally, I actually wrote some articles on this kind of thing recently, though I did not propose that anyone should actually do it, and do not propose that. It would be a silly thing to do.


My point is that whatever numbers are randomly chosen, the person will still be alive the next moment. Thus, there is nothing stopping them from existing in universes in which they will ultimately end up being shot, because they will still be able to be alive inside them - for a time, anyway. The universe has know way of 'knowing' that they will be shot a few days into the future in certain realities, and thereby prevent them from entering realities in which they will be dead at some point in the future. Only once the bullet has entered their brain is there a splitting off in which there are some universes in which they are alive at the next moment and some in which they are dead the next moment. Thus, they will most probably end up in a universe in which the wrong numbers were chosen and get shot, at which point the only universes in which they are alive will be the ones in which highly improbable quantum events just save them at the last moment, and thus these will be the only realities they can end up in.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#49  Postby Animavore » Mar 23, 2011 12:19 am

Remember I set up a dummy account to gain access to his website?

I just checked it after completely forgetting about it and it's full of spam.

From his assistant.

Hope you're week is going great. Burt and I have been crazy busy over
the last few days preparing for his upcoming video class with Vishen
Lakhiani of FinerMinds.

It's happening THIS Sunday.


(link to registration form)

In fact, Burt JUST got off the phone with Vishen and I overheard them
chatting about what to cover during the class and all I can say is...

IT'S GOING TO BE SERIOUSLY GOOD.

Not only is Burt going to speak about WHY it took him over 30 years to
reveal his Quantum Jumping technique to the world, he's also going to
talk about what he's been working on in the past 1 year since it's initial
release - including some pretty powerful and advanced techniques.

So, even if you're already an experienced Quantum Jumper, you most
definitely don't want to miss this. Burt's been working really hard on
preparing some excellent material for you so I know he would greatly
appreciate your attendance!


I can hardly wait.

At the time I sent to him for information he promised a 5 or 6 part introductory course, or something like that. Well in amongst the 16 emails I've gotten from him and his assistant there are the first 3 parts of the course which don't say anything except that you can achieve so much by learning his secrets.

In the first part he links this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLGYdphfbI[/youtube]

Apparently he has a fan base of 90,000 people.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#50  Postby Animavore » Mar 23, 2011 12:58 am

I like the personalisation of this email.

the stranger who changed Tom's life


No capitalisation or full stop - it reads.

Hi Tom,

"When a butterfly flaps its wings, could it cause a hurricane half way
across the world?"


It's fascinating how even the most insignificant events can create a
massive ripple across time, and change our lives in unsuspecting
ways.

Someone, somewhere, met their soul-mate because they missed
the bus by only a fraction of a second and bumped into them while
walking to work...

And someone got their dream job after a chance encounter with a
perfect stranger at the dry-cleaners...

And someone's life was spared when they decided to turn right at
that stop sign instead of proceeding through...

You get the idea right?

Everything in your life... your job, your partner, your possessions,
your friends... came to you through a series of insignificant events
that took you along the path towards where you are NOW.

When you think about it, you'll realize the connection between tiny
events (like missing the bus) and your ultimate destiny is totally
mind-blowing.

But consider this - what would your life would be like if all these tiny
events had unfolded differently?

What would have happened if you had got on that bus? Never met
that stranger? Proceed through that stop sign?

Would your life be better… or worse? Imagine what you could learn
about yourself and your choices if you had the ability to discover the
paths you *didn't* take.

It may sound unbelievable, but there is ONE way to find out and it
involves something called "Source Foundations..."

A simple yet powerful technique that you can use to discover your
hidden destiny.

This is revealed in Burt's Quantum Jumping video class.

[snip]link to above video.


Here's a quote from the comments on that video.

It's ridiculous how gullible people are. Let me guess, at some point it involves giving money to that Burt guy. Become a great photographer ! what kind of a test is that ?Why wouldn't he connect to his genius medical researcher self, and cure cancer !
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#51  Postby Animavore » Apr 19, 2011 11:30 am

This Venus-flytrap arse is still spamming the shit out of me.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#52  Postby Darkchilde » Apr 19, 2011 11:33 am

Animavore wrote:This Venus-flytrap arse is still spamming the shit out of me.


How is he doing it Ani? By e-mail? or on facebook or something?

If it's e-mail, then just add him to your blocked list. All his e-mails will go to the Junk folder.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#53  Postby Animavore » Apr 19, 2011 12:28 pm

Darkchilde wrote:
Animavore wrote:This Venus-flytrap arse is still spamming the shit out of me.


How is he doing it Ani? By e-mail? or on facebook or something?

If it's e-mail, then just add him to your blocked list. All his e-mails will go to the Junk folder.


Nah. As I said in an earlier post I set up an account just to see what happens when I email for a free trial.
I wasn't giving out above. It was more an exclamation at the cheekness of him. He can spam that account all he wants.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#54  Postby Animavore » May 30, 2011 10:14 am

Here's the latest email. From his assisstant :roll:

Hi Tom,

Burt is in the next room talking on the phone to our fulfillment
company and I just overheard something I HAD to tell you.

I have to make it quick though because I don't think I'm really
supposed to be telling you this and Burt will be off the call
soon.

It seems our shippers are not very happy that Burt decided
to run this special 30 day trial offer. The response has been
HUGE and we didn't give them much warning. They have
been working around the clock packing up and sending the
courses.

Burt is of course thrilled about this was his only hope from
the get-go was to allow as many people has possible to try
this program.

Mission accomplished.

Our shippers, however, are not as thrilled about the amount
of work this influx of orders has generated (at a very minimal
profit).

Anyways... to get to the point.

I heard tell them that he wouldn't offer a deal like this again
without increasing the profit margins (and discussing it with
them) first.

uh-oh.

But the good news is, there is still a few hours left for you to
take advantage of this once-in-a-life-time (literally) deal.

Here's your last chance.

Alexandra

PS: Oh and lets keep this email our little secret ;-)
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#55  Postby hackenslash » May 30, 2011 6:08 pm

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Re: Quantum Jumping

#56  Postby Dries van Tonder » May 30, 2011 6:14 pm

Even my friend who is deeply engrossed in woo says this is bullshit :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#57  Postby Animavore » May 30, 2011 7:37 pm

They send emails to that dummy account almost everyday.
Notice how they informally call me 'Tom', not 'Thomas' as is what I signed up as.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#58  Postby Paul Almond » May 30, 2011 8:05 pm

Burt has clearly connected with one of his other selves who is a scammer.
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Re: Quantum Jumping

#59  Postby Dogmatic Pyrrhonist » Jun 02, 2011 5:28 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:I tried quantum jumping and all I got was the mole on my left butt cheek moved to my right butt cheek. :(

Lucky you. I temporarily looked like Scott Bakula but then something magic happened and I went back to normal.

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Quantum jumping

#60  Postby Shuggy » Sep 06, 2011 8:04 am


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How about this?
http://www.quantumjumping.com/lp/subconscious?sr=1&sd=dcoau&gclid=CMXfktKTiKsCFWcbQgod-mSH0w

Jump Into a Universe of Infinite Possibilities.
The abundant you. The inventor you. The creative you. In alternate universes, everything you desire may have already taken place. Tap into this infinite potential with Quantum Jumping.

...Leading scientists like Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku and Neil Turok, all of whom are responsible for life-changing breakthroughs in the field of quantum physics, have all suggested the existence of multiple universes.

...In these alternate universes, alternate versions of YOU could be living out their lives.

And with an infinite number of them, it means that anything that can happen, does happen—in another universe. If this hypothesis is true, there is a universe where Obama never won the election and another where Princess Diana is still alive. There is a universe where you are the King of Scotland and a universe where you are a tea farmer in China. A universe where you are a celebrity musician, and one where you busk on a pavement for spare change.
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