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Vitamin B-17

#1  Postby Sovereign » Jun 21, 2013 5:18 am

So, you know those people who love everything "not mainstream"? Well this has been floating around the interwebs.

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It was accompanied by this lovely prose.
VITAMIN B-17 AMAZON REVIEW: "This product is a must to add to your diet because people need this. This product is largely suppressed in the U.S. because it is beneficial to ones diet. The medical industry does NOT want anybody to know how beneficial and important this is to have in ones diet. If your not familiar with vitamin B-17 then you need to look at G. Edward Griffin's A World Without Cancer... series. Highly recommend this." (70 of 74 people found the following review helpful) VITAMIN B-17 AMAZON REVIEW: "I was told I had leukemia in July, 2011. I am 57 Yrs old, non-smoker, never sick. I went through 2 sets of Chemo. I had heard about B17 in the book "World without Cancer", purchased through Amazon. The First Chemo showed no effect. I started taking 1000mg per day of B17, with multi vitamins. They give you nothing to counter the damage the chemo does to your system. The Second Chemo results were the same. No positive effect. They said more chemo would not help. Radiation therapy, I declined. So I was sent home with 3 weeks or more to live. My bone marrow was full of cancer cells and also in my blood system. This was Sept. 2011. I thought at the time that the B17 had at least helped with the side effects. I did feel very weak, could not taste food, had 2 bad rashes from anti-biotics. But I never got sick. I was sent home. Final arrangments were made, but slowly I started feeling better, wounds would heal and in November, I was doing small things around the house. In Dec. 2012 I was checked. They found nothing in my blood or bone marrow and was told I was in remission. I declined any more Chemo. This is Feb. 2012, and I am still short of breath, but can do minor things. I can't prove how much the B17 had an effect on me, or how long I will be in remission. But I'm glad I ordered it. Maybe God's will or God's gift." (97 of 99 people found the following review helpful) WIKIPEDIA: "The U.S. Food and Drug Administration prohibited the interstate shipment of amygdalin and laetrile (B-17) in 1977. Thereafter, 27 U.S. states legalized the use of amygdalin within those states." I BEAT CANCER WITH VITAMIN B17 http://youtu.be/CyvSmhrlJwE A World Without Cancer (HQ) - The Story of Vitamin B17 - G. Edward Griffin http://youtu.be/2qHNDYeF0MU There are 2 reviews above. One is from a $20 bottle, the other from an $83 bottle. The wiki-quote is below. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdalin Share with friends and family.


So seeing the Wikipedia link, naturally I checked it and came across this gem.
The metabolism of amygdalin produces hydrogen cyanide, a potent toxin. Beta-glucosidase, one of the enzymes that catalyzes the release of cyanide from amygdalin, is present in the human small intestine and in a variety of common foods. This leads to an unpredictable and potentially lethal toxicity when amygdalin or laetrile is taken orally. Ingestion of purified amygdalin or apricot kernels can cause severe toxicity and death due to cyanide poisoning. Numerous case reports in medical literature describe serious cyanide poisoning in patients who ingested laetrile as a cancer treatment. Blood cyanide concentrations may be measured as a means of confirming the diagnosis in hospitalized patients or to assist in the forensic investigation of a fatal overdose.

Some laetrile promoters have claimed that the cyanide generated by laetrile is immediately harmlessly detoxified by the mitochondrial enzyme rhodanese into thiocyanate. However, these claims are false. First, because thiocyanate is also toxic, although to a lesser degree. Second, the body only can use the small amount of rhodanese that is present in the blood, regardless of the stores present in kidneys and liver. Third, the limited factor in this conversion are the stores of cystine, cysteine, and other sulfur compounds, which are rapidly depleted in laetrile poisoning. Fourth, blood analysis show undetoxified cyanide in persons poisoned with laetrile or with apricot kernels.


On the FB page, there is an argument going on and the logical ones don't seem to be making at dent. At this point I'm tired of arguing with people and if they can't even check their sources, I'm tempted to say let them naturally select themselves out of the population.

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Re: Vitamin B-17

#2  Postby Made of Stars » Jun 21, 2013 8:31 am

B-17 is da bomb. :smug:
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#3  Postby Weaver » Jun 21, 2013 12:42 pm

ImageNo, Da Bombz is what's inside the B17.
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#4  Postby Mazille » Jun 21, 2013 12:48 pm

Beat me to a bombing joke there. Damn you.
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#5  Postby DavidMcC » Jun 24, 2013 3:41 pm

It is a well-known fact that medicines are poisons taken in small doses. Maybe the FDA banned the advertised product because it might be taken in larger doses than is good for you. On the other hand, HCN has long been known to be present in apple pips, etc AFAIK, but that doesn't mean that apples should be banned!
The danger would be from vitamin extracts from fruit, because then the quantities ingested can be way too high if not carefully controlled.
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#6  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jun 24, 2013 5:08 pm

Damn you Weaver. You beat me to the punch!

Damn you Mazille you beat me to damning Weaver.

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Re: Vitamin B-17

#7  Postby DavidMcC » Jun 24, 2013 6:08 pm

It's mjust as well nobody goes around picking up apples and just eating the pips, otherwise they'd have to ban apples as well! :roll:
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#8  Postby tolman » Jun 25, 2013 12:50 am

DavidMcC wrote:It is a well-known fact that medicines are poisons taken in small doses.

No - it's a [fairly] well-known fact that [most] medicines are toxic if taken in excessive doses.
But that doesn't logically mean the same as what you said.
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Re: Vitamin B-17

#9  Postby DavidMcC » Jun 27, 2013 11:22 am

tolman wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:It is a well-known fact that medicines are poisons taken in small doses.

No - it's a [fairly] well-known fact that [most] medicines are toxic if taken in excessive doses.
But that doesn't logically mean the same as what you said.

I wasn't trying to say that ALL poisons are medicines! It's just the turn of phrase that is commonly used.

EDIT: And that is relevant here, because the banned product would have to be on prescription only to avoid the situation where people cause further harm to themselves while trying to recover from cancer, by overdosing with the product.
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